Tyth vs Exar Kun and Ulic Qel Droma

Started by Selenial4 pages
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Kindly pinpoint a civilization that have accomplishments like that besides Celestials. I think Celestials had serious competition.

You probably class as legitimately illiterate at this point.

Originally posted by Selenial
You probably class as legitimately illiterate at this point.

You didn't address my query.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Whether the quotes refer to Tyth alone or the Six Gods, I'm unsure, but given that the codex refers to the gods as superweaponS, and that the operative terms are it, it's, and "a superweapon" (singular), it could very well be referring to just Tyth. But even if it's referring to all six of the gods, it's still enough for me to put Tyth alone above Kun and Droma.

Tyth getting beaten by the Outlander and 7 other unknown force users/peeps doesn't preclude Tyth being above Kun and Droma. Tyth was clearly above the Outlander individually, who I'd argue is above Droma and at least approaches Kun.

The One Superweapon is the army, the gods as a whole, they are one entity. It's like the Star Forge is classed as a superweapon, not because it itself can destroy planets, but the armies and fleets under it's power can.

Lana, Theron, Acina and Malcom all refer to the entire building in which Tyth and the other gods are contained as 'The Superweapon'. Evidently their power readings, and Theron's historical data refer to all six gods and the various advanced droids that accompany them.

No, it doesn't, but the Outlander and seven unknowns defeating Tyth and the other Iokathi gods, along with their armies, without suffering a single casualty kind of promotes the idea that these 'Gods' aren't as planet busting as you're suggesting. Either they're so unbelievably slow that they cannot hit any trained soldier, or they're not able to even disintegrate a single person.

Not to mention is helps debunk the idea that Tyth somehow tanked the Eternal Fleet*, if 8 people can bring him down through attrition.

*The Eternal Fleet is still out of commision in Orbit, whatever ships made it to the planet and somehow managed to fire on Tyth were an exception. The Outlander commands the ships that are already there to fire, she doesn't bring the entire ****ing fleet down on Tyth, lmao.

Also, to clarify: Tyth isn't at full power when the operation team defeats him. In the trailer he states as much.

Originally posted by Selenial
The One Superweapon is the army, the gods as a whole, they are one entity. It's like the Star Forge is classed as a superweapon, not because it itself can destroy planets, but the armies and fleets under it's power can.

Lana, Theron, Acina and Malcom all refer to the entire building in which Tyth and the other gods are contained as 'The Superweapon'. Evidently their power readings, and Theron's historical data refer to all six gods and the various advanced droids that accompany them.

No, it doesn't, but the Outlander and seven unknowns defeating Tyth and the other Iokathi gods, along with their armies, without suffering a single casualty kind of promotes the idea that these 'Gods' aren't as planet busting as you're suggesting. Either they're so unbelievably slow that they cannot hit any trained soldier, or they're not able to even disintegrate a single person.

Not to mention is helps debunk the idea that Tyth somehow tanked the Eternal Fleet*, if 8 people can bring him down through attrition.

*The Eternal Fleet is still out of commision in Orbit, whatever ships made it to the planet and somehow managed to fire on Tyth were an exception. The Outlander commands the ships that are already there to fire, she doesn't bring the entire ****ing fleet down on Tyth, lmao.


mmm

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Also, to clarify: Tyth isn't at full power when the operation team defeats him. In the trailer he states as much.

Tyth was just bombarded by a fleet bigger than Revan's Star Forge armada or Vitiate's centuries-in-the-making Sith Empire fleet.

Makes sense he's no where near full power. 👆

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Also, to clarify: Tyth isn't at full power when the operation team defeats him. In the trailer he states as much.

👆

Makes perfect sense.

Originally posted by Selenial
The One Superweapon is the army, the gods as a whole, they are one entity. .

"These superweapons were created millennia ago by the planet's architects, likely designed to pacify, subjugate, and destroy entire civilizations."

Nah. All of them are a superweapon of their own right, and function independently of one-another, as shown by the fact they fought *each other* and destroyed Iokath.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Tyth was just bombarded by a fleet bigger than Revan's Star Forge armada or Vitiate's centuries-in-the-making Sith Empire fleet.

Makes sense he's no where near full power. 👆

Damn, Revan's Star Forge Armada was less than a dozen ships large?

Impressive ✅

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
"These superweapons were created millennia ago by the planet's architects, likely designed to pacify, subjugate, and destroy entire civilizations."

Nah. All of them are a superweapon of their own right.

Irrelevant, when you're using character quotes you must take whatever their classification is, and all of the major characters refer to the 'Superweapon' as the building containing Tyth, Izax, and all the other machines.

Originally posted by Selenial
Damn, Revan's Star Forge Armada was less than a dozen ships large?

Impressive ✅

The Outlander called in the Eternal Fleet, not a select regiment of it.

The fact the cutscene's specific camera angle doesn't show all the ships doesn't change that.

Originally posted by Selenial
Irrelevant, when you're using character quotes you must take whatever their classification is, and all of the major characters refer to the 'Superweapon' as the building containing Tyth, Izax, and all the other machines.

You seem to be speculating far more than us here.

Only Tyth is shown and identified as the superweapon of the storyline.

None of the others are.

Some promotional content:

You are the Outlander, conqueror of Zakuul and the galaxy's single most powerful leader. When a deadly new superweapon is discovered, Republic and Imperial forces mobilize for war – and you are called into action once more. Choose to align your forces with either Republic or Empire, then fight your way to the Droid superweapon before it can unleash galactic devastation!

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Tyth, God of Rage, a war droid of Iokath, worshipped as the first of the Old Gods of Zakuul, has awakened to once again threaten the galaxy. In this new Operation, you’ll need to work together in a hand-picked team of 8 to 16 allies to defeat the colossal Tyth before his rage and his minions overwhelm you. As the first of the superweapons to be discovered, Tyth’s downfall will be the first step to ensure victory in ‘The War for Iokath.’

It doesn't even look like the other gods are awakened yet. 👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The Outlander called in the Eternal Fleet, not a select regiment of it.

The fact the cutscene's specific camera angle doesn't show all the ships doesn't change that.

Only twelve ships had a firing arc on the courtyard in which Tyth was standing, that's evident from the "specific camera angle". Obviously the Eternal Fleet aren't going to obliterate the building containing their ****ing commander.

Besides, quote for the entire Eternal Fleet being on Iokath? Quote for the entire fleet in orbit being moved into position above the Superweapon? All the Outlander says is 'ships of the Eternal Fleet', you're forgetting that the Republic/Imperial fleets are still in orbit, it would be tactical retardation to move the entire fleet to the ground...

Who says they moved them to the ground? Why can't they just all fire from space, lmfao.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
It doesn't even look like the other gods are awakened yet. 👆

Have you actually played the operation? Whether Tyth is the only one to be discovered or not is irrelevant, because the scans and history of the planet will still refer to all of them.

All the Gods are in the same building, again, we know that. Hence power readings, historical data, and the fact that all the leaders of each faction refer to the building as the Superweapon mean even if they are not aware they are doing it, they are still referring to the capabilities of all six.

mmm

Originally posted by Selenial
even if they are not aware they are doing it, they are still referring to the capabilities of all six.

Prove it.

Only Tyth is active, and thus only Tyth should be showing power readings, as far as I'm aware.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Who says they moved them to the ground? Why can't they just all fire from space, lmfao.

Because Iokath is protected by a ****ing sphere, you literally cannot orbitally bombard the planet unless your ships have passed through the sphere.