Tyth vs Exar Kun and Ulic Qel Droma

Started by Selenial4 pages
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Prove it.

> all the gods are in the same building.
> they are only scanning the ****ing building.
> they constantly refer to the superweapon as the entire fucing building.
> the records Theron makes make no distinction other than the building.

It's pretty ****ing obvious mmm

Are the other gods even awakened yet? How would they be provided power readings when offline?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Only Tyth is active, and thus only Tyth should be showing power readings, as far as I'm aware.

All of them are active, again, if you'd played the operation, you'd know Tyth was communicating with Scyva the entire time.

Even if a dozen capital ships fired at Tyth, he endured it all - an insane showing of durability on Tyth's part. Something beyond the capacity of a mortal Force-user. 👆

And Tyth was not at full power when the Strike Team eliminated him. 👆

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Coming back to the point: Tyth murders this duo.

Originally posted by Selenial
All of them are active, again, if you'd played the operation, you'd know Tyth was communicating with Scyva the entire time.

Got a quote?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And Tyth was not at full power when the Strike Team eliminated him. 👆

Quote, btw?

Originally posted by Selenial
The One Superweapon is the army, the gods as a whole, they are one entity. It's like the Star Forge is classed as a superweapon, not because it itself can destroy planets, but the armies and fleets under it's power can.

Lana, Theron, Acina and Malcom all refer to the entire building in which Tyth and the other gods are contained as 'The Superweapon'. Evidently their power readings, and Theron's historical data refer to all six gods and the various advanced droids that accompany them.

No, it doesn't, but the Outlander and seven unknowns defeating Tyth and the other Iokathi gods, along with their armies, without suffering a single casualty kind of promotes the idea that these 'Gods' aren't as planet busting as you're suggesting. Either they're so unbelievably slow that they cannot hit any trained soldier, or they're not able to even disintegrate a single person.

Not to mention is helps debunk the idea that Tyth somehow tanked the Eternal Fleet*, if 8 people can bring him down through attrition.

*The Eternal Fleet is still out of commision in Orbit, whatever ships made it to the planet and somehow managed to fire on Tyth were an exception. The Outlander commands the ships that are already there to fire, she doesn't bring the entire ****ing fleet down on Tyth, lmao.

Except it's clearly not referring to the entire complex. You realize that the Outlander literally looks at Tyth and says, "You must be THE superweapon," right? THE superweapon is what's being referred to in the quotes, not the entire complex, lol.

The 6 gods are not at full power when they fight the protagonists, according to implications from the trailer. Especially Tyth, who's recharging from getting blasto'd by 13-15 EF ships. Outlander and 7 other beings of unknown identity and power defeating a much weakened Tyth doesn't really prove much. And we clearly saw that even a not full-power Tyth is solidly above the Outlander, who I'd argue at least approaches Kun.

Agreed that it wasn't literally the entire fleet, though. But assuming Tyth is at full power here...Ulic and Kun an die. 🙂

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Got a quote?

She's got voice lines that come up during the fight, just ****ing youtube it.

Originally posted by Selenial
Quote, btw?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2-_KcBK1BIQ

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Except it's clearly not referring to the entire complex. You realize that the Outlander literally looks at Tyth and says, "You must be THE superweapon," right? THE superweapon is what's being referred to in the quotes, not the entire complex, lol.

The 6 gods are not at full power when they fight the protagonists, according to implications from the trailer. Especially Tyth, who's recharging from getting blasto'd by 13-15 EF ships. Outlander and 7 other beings of unknown identity and power defeating a much weakened Tyth doesn't really prove much. And we clearly saw that even a not full-power Tyth is solidly above the Outlander, who I'd argue at least approaches Kun.

Agreed that it wasn't literally the entire fleet, though. But assuming Tyth is at full power here...Ulic and Kun an die. 🙂

Where's 13-15 ships coming from? We at most see 3 ships arrive with The Outlander when they arrive.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Where's 13-15 ships coming from? We at most see 3 ships arrive with The Outlander when they arrive.

You see several ships above Tyth shortly before they begin firing on him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvLH8v9rAD4&t=1720s

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dvLH8v9rAD4

28:40

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2-_KcBK1BIQ

Ok, and why are you jumping to the conclusion that 'we are not ready' means 'I'm not at full power'? We have no idea what the God's plans are, please show me whatever quote you have that proves 'we are not ready' doesn't mean 'our army isn't ready to be discovered', since, you know, they're in a ****ing factory.

The TOR brigade really needs to stop jumping on every release and wanking it to the fullest extent, and then backing down when the facts come to the surface. It's embarrassing :/

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dvLH8v9rAD4

28:40

Hm...must have missed that, then again only played through it once. Eh fair enough.

They literally want to use the Outlander and co. as sacrifice to fuel their awakening. That coupled with "we're not ready" shows they're not at full power. 😬

Coupled with the fact that Lana literally says the Fleet caused Tyth to need to "recharge"...

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
They literally want to use the Outlander and co. as sacrifice to fuel their awakening. That coupled with "we're not ready" shows they're not at full power. 😬

Coupled with the fact that Lana literally says the Fleet caused Tyth to need to "recharge"...

These are machines with a literal god complex. Weirdly enough, I don't think ritual sacrifices are necessary to their awakening.

I mean I'm not really that adverse to the idea that they're not at full power, I just think it's a weak argument in this context 🙂

We don't know how the fugg these droids work, so I'll take their word and Lana's that they're not at full power. 🙂

In the context of this thread, I don't see how Kun and Droma defeat a full-power Tyth.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
In the context of this thread, I don't see how Kun and Droma defeat a full-power Tyth.

If you could quantify a full power Tyth compared to his weakened state you might actually have a leg to stand on.

Well the thing is that I think the Tyth we saw prior to the op could arguably defeat Kun and Droma.

An Op consisting of what kind of group? What/who did they have? Kinda find it hard to believe that even weakened Tyth would lose to a group consisting of at best the Outlander and a bunch of nobodies by comparison.