Originally posted by Beniboybling
Vader tanked the explosion of a Sith superweapon, yet this isn't comparable because you can't compare different energies yet somehow Tyth's feat is still better.Bout right, LeG?
Hard stop at 1. btw.
The holocron was needed to activate the superweapon but Ezra and Kanan removed it, a move that caused the Temple to conventionally crumble.
Darth Vader did not tank a superweapon in this case. He made it out from a conventional destruction of a Temple. And he was not alone in this: Ashoka also made it.
The superweapon was not activated because Ezra and Kanan removed holocron from its setting. This removal orchestrated a conventional destruction sequence of the Temple.
Superweapon could be activated only via that holocron. Ezra and Kanan realized the danger and removed the holocron.
Darth Vader didn't tank any superweapon. It is really sad to see people spreading lies about the events on Malachor.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66Sorry I'm not paying much attention to your posts, I suppose I'll roll with there being zero evidence to support such a reading. 🙁
... what? Re-read my post. It's almost as if you had memory loss from the time you read it and the time you responded, since I agreed she died.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Can you read? I suppose that's too much to expect from you these days.
Your words give the wrong impression. Darth Vader did not tank a superweapon. He made it out from conventional destruction of the ancient Temple. The superweapon was not activated.
Originally posted by slayne
That isn't his only claim to fame. He one-shot a capital ship with little to no effort whatsoever on his part.Also, what has Vader tanked that even came close to the concentrated fire of ~14 capital ships? Of the Eternal Fleet, no less?
1. Tanking a kyber crystal empowered Sith superweapon explosion:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LXiwr25OU_w (1:25)
This is what a non-weaponized kyber crystal explosion could do:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GVndPQC7LA0 (1:46)
Note how the TIE fighters weren't the only things that were atomized; the gozanti-class crusers are gone as well.
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2. While in a massively weakened state, tanked Galen Marek's suicide blast without a scratch:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3T2Z-1spT8 (1:05)
Galen at this point had entered Oneness, a state which empowers a Force user greatly:
"No!" the apprentice cried, dropping his defenses to strike one last time at the Imperials. Energy surged through him. He felt as though a star had blazed to life in his chest. Driven by concern for his friends rather than himself, he embraced the Force completely, utterly, and was rewarded with strength that made his efforts with the dark side look like those of a child. His nerves were on fire. Streamers of light radiated from his skin. His bones glowed like radiant lava.He saw rather than felt the massive shock wave that consumed a large portion of what remained of the observation dome. A glowing bubble of fire tore the stormtroopers to shreds and engulfed Vader and the Emperor. Shrapnel filled the air like dust caught in the beam of the Death Star's powerful laser.
-The Force Unleashed
Galen also poured every ounce of power he had into that attack; he cut completely loose and held nothing back:
Lightsabers clashed inside the Emperor's observation dome, but Starkiller was ultimately no match for the power of Darth Sidious. Bombarded by Force lightning, Starkiller did not fight back but instead unleashed all the power of the Force within him, causing a tremendous blast that shattered the Emperor's tower and caused enough of a distraction to allow Eclipse and the Rebel Senators to escape.
-The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
Also note on the first quote how the power he had made everything he had done before look like "child's play". Galen, while vastly pre-prime, has done stuff like this:
Soon the foyer was full of the twitching, smoking bodies of the Temple’s hapless guardians. He began to tire, not from exertion but from the tedium of knocking down droid after droid, to no apparent end. There might have been thousands of them.Deactivating his lightsaber, he took a deep breath. With one mighty exhalation of power, he blasted all of them—those in pieces and those approaching with needle-tipped fingers and vibrosaws upraised—out of the foyer doors. Then he blasted the rubbish piles after them. He kept pushing until a dark cloud soared out over Raxus Prime’s hideous landscape—an artificial hurricane full of droid golems.
When the foyer was clear, the apprentice straightened. He was no longer pushing with the Force, but the floor beneath him shook nonetheless. A heavy booming sound came from deeper in the Temple, and was getting louder. He had certainly attracted someone’s attention now.
-The Force Unleashed
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1_aOR6H9h0I
Point is that Galen is an absolute beast and Vader tanking an assault far, far more powerful than those feats above, while in a horrendous condition, is extremely impressive.
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3. Tanking the Starkiller Clone's amped and enraged Force Lightning barrage with no lethal injuries:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Euw3AqVZreQ (4:50)
Note how his casual bursts can literally atomize stormtroopers and their armor, so imagine what they can do when he is enraged and amplified:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e6zIfCrWYsw (16:20)
Also, here are the clone's other feats of power, which must be considered when looking at Vader's feat.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lGTuiVaizic (0:00) (3:30)
He found a maintenance ladder leading to an air lock and leapt up it in two bounds, blowing the inner hatch as he came. He could feel a wild drumming from the far side of the outer door. The ship was moving so fast now that unexposed flesh wouldn't last a microsecond. He would have to rely on a Force shield to keep him safe. A single lapse in concentration would be the end of him.
This was where it got difficult. He needed to maintain the Force shield against the sort of heat he might find in the outer layers of a star. He also had to keep in mind the target ahead-a target he couldn't see through the plasma, but had to hit square-on or else the planetary shield generators wouldn't fail. No matter what happened, he had to fly straight.
He raised his hands and spread his fingers wide. His eyes closed tightly against the fiery brightness of the plasma. With each bucking and shaking of the ship beneath him, he encouraged himself to ride with it instead of fighting it. He was part of the ship, not a passenger. He was the ship, not a reckless pilot guiding it to destruction.
In the same way that he could feel his fingers and roes, his mind seeped outward into the metal and plastoid of the frigate, until every joint and weld, every porthole and deck became part of his sense of being. There was no line anymore between Starkiller and the Salvation. They were one and the same being, from the perspective of the Force.
He raised his right arm, and the ship followed the movement, listing slowly and heavily to starboard. Some of the headlong shuddering faded, as though it were grateful to have someone at the helm again. Even the wind's shrieking seemed to ebb.
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Just seconds remained before the Salvation's fore section hit Kamino. The facility was in close focus ahead of him, and he imagined he could see Juno's eyes widening on seeing him, haloed with his Force shield on top of her precious ship.
Did she know it was him, or did she wonder at this strange apparition? Did she imagine that he was her death coming at last, from the skies instead of Darth Vader's hand?
Starkiller closed his eyes. He didn't have time to wonder what was going through her mind. He had to think of something fast, or Juno was going to die.
There was only one thing he could do, and although he knew he wasn't likely to survive, he didn't hesitate. What was death when the love of his former life was at stake? Besides, anything was possible. Dying, as he had thought once before, always seemed to bring out the best in him.
With his mind and all the power of the Force, Starkiller embraced what remained of the frigate beneath him-and blew it into a billion pieces.
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The ship was almost upon them when the figure brought his hands down in a fierce, pounding motion, and the last solid fragment of the Salivation exploded into fiery pieces.
Juno coughed and wished she could wipe her eyes clear of ash. Her ship had blown itself practically to atoms; she had seen it happen, right in front of her. There was no chance at all that Starkiller could have survived. He had been riding right on top of it.
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Starkiller's eyes jerked open. Where was he? All was dark around him. He smelled smoke and his body felt as though it had been hit by an asteroid. The last thing he remembered was tightening the Force shield around him and destroying the Salvation so it wouldn't kill Juno.
-The Force Unleashed 2
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4. Blocking a lightsaber blade with his bare hand:
The blade might have gotten past Vader's guard, but instead it glanced off the black of his upraised left hand, smoke curling from the black glove
-Dark Lord: The Rise Of Darth Vader
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5. Tanking Emperor Palpatine's full on Force Lightning long enough to throw him down the pit:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lbbG02LB7g0
Note how Palpatine is canonically the most powerful Sith Lord in history, and his Force Lightning's intensity surpasses that of a lightsaber blade. Details can be found in my Ultimate Palaptine essay.
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With that out of the way, I'd say it's quite laughable to suggest Tyth is beating Vader. Yes, I said it: Darth Vader beats Tyth.