This is a match more suited to Jess, as unlike most other streetlevellers Hobbs is more of an in your face guy, which will play to her strengths. However, even Hobbs displays more skill than her and the tendency to put it to use. And adding to that is her tendency of pulling her punches and her many lows, as unlikely as it sounds, the odds look more in Hobbs favor. However, if she is convinced to go all out, Hobbs would be kissing the pavement. I mean she apparently ripped a guy's head off. Then again I haven't seen FF8 so dunno how much he got boosted by it.
I don't recall Jessica ripping someone's head off, but she did casually snap Kilgrave's neck, and killed a woman with a straight punch to the chest. And she has a bunch of other good strength feats as well, like casually snapping padlocks, tearing off car doors, lifting the back of a car without showing much strain etc.
FF8 stepped it up to the next level though. Both Hobbs and Shaw were visibly faster and more agile than in the previous film, and looked a lot more skilled (which is likely down to an upgrade in fight choreography). And they both fought groups of other enemies, including people in full riot gear (while they themselves were unarmed), just to show how formidable they were. I think Hobbs maybe got tagged once or twice in H2H during the entire movie (and it had zero effect other than making Hobbs look irritated), and I can't recall a single instance of someone landing a hit on Shaw. And Hobbs was just full-blown superhuman in terms of strength feats. He does things like
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casually snap the chains on prison restraints to break free, pull a concrete prison bench out of its wall mounting and then does reps with it, punched a dent larger than his fist into a thick armoured door, KO'd a guy who was wearing a riot helmet with a bare-headed headbutt, and was easily sending guys flying all over the place. At one point he sent 3 guys in full body armour, with riot shields, sailing back probably about 10 feet, all at once. He also took repeated very close range hits from a shotgun firing rubber bullets (as he was walking towards the guy), and all it did was annoy him.
I'm personally leaning towards Hobbs here, as there isn't really much of a stat difference at this point IMO, and Hobbs is a WAY better fighter.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I don't recall Jessica ripping someone's head off, but she did casually snap Kilgrave's neck, and killed a woman with a straight punch to the chest. And she has a bunch of other good strength feats as well, like casually snapping padlocks, tearing off car doors, lifting the back of a car without showing much strain etc.FF8 stepped it up to the next level though. Both Hobbs and Shaw were visibly faster and more agile than in the previous film, and looked a lot more skilled (which is likely down to an upgrade in fight choreography). And they both fought groups of other enemies, including people in full riot gear (while they themselves were unarmed), just to show how formidable they were. I think Hobbs maybe got tagged once or twice in H2H during the entire movie (and it had zero effect other than making Hobbs look irritated), and I can't recall a single instance of someone landing a hit on Shaw. And Hobbs was just full-blown superhuman in terms of strength feats. He does things like
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casually snap the chains on prison restraints to break free, pull a concrete prison bench out of its wall mounting and then does reps with it, punched a dent larger than his fist into a thick armoured door, KO'd a guy who was wearing a riot helmet with a bare-headed headbutt, and was easily sending guys flying all over the place. At one point he sent 3 guys in full body armour, with riot shields, sailing back probably about 10 feet, all at once. He also took repeated very close range hits from a shotgun firing rubber bullets (as he was walking towards the guy), and all it did was annoy him.I'm personally leaning towards Hobbs here, as there isn't really much of a stat difference at this point IMO, and Hobbs is a WAY better fighter.
I haven't seen the movie in question, but those feats sound a lot more in line with someone like Marv, not a mid level super human like JJ.
Originally posted by KingD19
Hobbs would take the hits she can dish out if she does hit him. But it's doubtful as he is a monster.
That's also why I think he would win. He is a much better (and faster) fighter than she is, and has a really big reach advantage, so she would have a hell of a time landing clean hits.
Leaning towards Hobbs here. If we took FF7 and FF8 with a more serious tone, Hobbs' feats would basically make him superhuman. Maybe not as strong as Cap but I'm pretty sure he could replicate JJ's feat of lifting the back of a car and even surviving a hit from a vehicle.
I still think JJ is stronger than him, but to be honest that's more because of what I know about JJ's powers rather than feats. But yeah, Hobbs has way better fighting skill. Anyone who could keep up with Statham is someone who's quite a ways above JJ's skill.
Dom has already held up a car in Fast 7. And Hobbs crushed a car with his body after falling 4 stories and having another +100lbs in his partner fall on him. Which I'm pretty sure is long enough to approach the peak of terminal velocity, increasing the force even more. All he got was a broken arm.
Hobbs is bigger, strong enough to hurt her, and skilled enough to toss her around before choking her out or something if he can't KO her.
Originally posted by KingD19
Dom has already held up a car in Fast 7. And Hobbs crushed a car with his body after falling 4 stories and having another +100lbs in his partner fall on him. Which I'm pretty sure is long enough to approach the peak of terminal velocity, increasing the force even more. All he got was a broken arm.
Which he recovered enough from in the space of a few days that he could flex out of the cast and "go to work", which involved killing a drone by torpedo'ing it with ambulance (while he was still inside it) and shifting large slabs of concrete around while trying to get Dom out of his car after the parking lot collapse.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I don't recall Jessica ripping someone's head off
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Hobbs does things likeSpoiler:
casually snap the chains on prison restraints to break free,KO'd a guy who was wearing a riot helmet with a bare-headed headbutt, and was easily sending guys flying all over the place.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerSpoiler:
pull a concrete prison bench out of its wall mounting and then does reps with it,
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerSpoiler:
At one point he sent 3 guys in full body armour, with riot shields, sailing back probably about 10 feet, all at once.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerSpoiler:
punched a dent larger than his fist into a thick armoured door,
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerSpoiler:
He also took repeated very close range hits from a shotgun firing rubber bullets (as he was walking towards the guy), and all it did was annoy him.
In the scene where he snapped the shackles, he picked a grown man up and turned him 100% horizontally, then held him up against a fence with his hand on his throat and his other gripping his belt. Just held him there casually for nearly a minute to prove a point.
And Hobbs was slinging people around closer to Cage's level than Jones was.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Which he recovered enough from in the space of a few days that he could flex out of the cast and "go to work", which involved killing a drone by torpedo'ing it with ambulance (while he was still inside it) and shifting large slabs of concrete around while trying to get Dom out of his car after the parking lot collapse.
I think he killed that one guard in the prison riot. Like his head bounced off the concrete and his body twisted at a weird angle after Hobbs just like, pushed his whole face down.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
And imo JJ's best feat was when she stopped that car from hitting that girl, and that was zero strain too
P.S. And u guys seem to have really fallen in love with Hobbs.
To be honest, I don't like how they've developed the Hobbs character. It's almost like they keep enhancing him just to feed the Rock's machismo. It's even worse with Toretto. They keep making them capable of doing crazy stuff just to show how badass they are.
It honestly ruins their characters. I like the Rock, but his blatant supermanism in the latest FF movie is turning me off. At least with Deckard Shaw most of what he does is still within the realm of realism.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
And imo JJ's best feat was when she stopped that car from hitting that girl, and that was zero strain too
P.S. And u guys seem to have really fallen in love with Hobbs.
He is the People's Champion. 😛
But seriously, they just keep upping the ante with the characters in the F&F movies, making them more over-the-top with each installment. He also has another cartoony feat, but not really sure how to quantify it. Towards the end of the film,
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while hanging from the side of a car, he uses his one arm to push a submarine torpedo off course, though he is aided a bit with the driver turning the car in the same direction as he gives it a shove. It was worthy of Looney Tunes.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
He is the People's Champion. 😛But seriously, they just keep upping the ante with the characters in the F&F movies, making them more over-the-top with each installment. He also has another cartoony feat, but not really sure how to quantify it. Towards the end of the film,
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while hanging from the side of a car, he uses his one arm to push a submarine torpedo off course, though he is aided a bit with the driver turning the car in the same direction as he gives it a shove. It was worthy of Looney Tunes.
Originally posted by FrothByte
It's even worse with Toretto.
This did actually ruin what could have been a great moment in the film.
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After all the tension build up between him and that big ginger henchman guy, I expected them to have a proper showdown in the snow. But Dom just manhandles him, slams him down, and then snaps his neck with a single hard blow to the face.
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
I don't know why you have put that in a spoiler block when it was in one of the trailers?
I usually don't watch all the trailers, and the ones I do watch I only really scan. I find most movies spoil too much in the trailers nowadays, so I shy away from them so as to keep more surprises for the film. I just watch enough to get the general tone of a film, to know whether I would watch it or not.