Originally posted by DarkSaint85He has similar foam:
Plus:
But what if it doesn't work?
Tasers work just fine on ole' Arkady.
Batman has shut Cyborg down (plus the JLA transporters) with a blast.
batman will die from the death spores unless he is prepared. as i recall omega red later broke thru that didnt he? also, it was lamely writen because omega red could use his tentacles to rip the foam.
as for the ropes omega red has his tenticals which will easily break thru that. at base he is class 10. the tentacles can rip a tank.
the electricity didnt take out omega red. also batman is no ironman, just because ironman has massive amounts of electricity in his suit, doesnt mean batman has the same amounts in his toys. and even iromans electricity voltage wasnt enough to take red out.
just because batman did it to cyborg and shut down his cybernetic system, doesnt by any means mean omega red has same weakness as well. omega red is not operating on some system.
Originally posted by Dareangel
batman will die from the death spores unless he is prepared. as i recall omega red later broke thru that didnt he? also, it was lamely writen because omega red could use his tentacles to rip the foam.as for the ropes omega red has his tenticals which will easily break thru that. not to mention class 10 strength that along with his armor and healing factor will allow him to go that extra mile and break thru.
the electricity didnt take out omega red. also batman is no ironman. after his electric toys he will be broken.just because batman did it to cyborg and shut down his cybernetic system, doesnt by any means mean omega red has same weakness as well. omega red is not operating on some system.
He can pile ALL his toys onto OR, which is my point. Not JUST foam, or JUST cables, or JUST tasers. But all of them, spammed.
Like here, when he fights Emperor Penguin. He spams acid batarangs, tasers, and gas:
Again, my point is that in character, he empties his belt of toys. Red isn't JUST resisting foam - but cabling, foam, ice, tasers, acid, the whole shebang. Bats would and has thrown everything at foes before.
As for your point about Cyborg?
How about Superman:
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
MOAR FOAM!This is used to contain a large building sized explosion:
As for electricity, here's 50,000 volts:
There are other showings of his tasers, of course. But thought I'd just post these.
first of all how powerful was that explosion. secondly the explosion is a 1 time mass and thats it, once you contain it its all over. omega red with his tentacles can break concrete and rip apart a tank. also, creating constant pressure on the foam since its not a 1 hit explosion but the tenticales using their force to rip the foam apart over and over will eventually rip thru if not at the start as i believe.
as for the electricity, we dont know how powerful was the electricity voltage used by ironman. for all that we know it could be more powerful. and of course, i will point again that it didnt take him out. omega red has carboranium armor and a healing factor better than wolverines. no electricity is taking him out. wolverine and colossus stated that thru all the years they know omega red, their only chance to defeat him was to freeze him. unless batman has some serious freezing powers with him, like mr freezes gun on a high level, i dont see him stopping red with anyhting.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Class 10? Lol I just showed them being class 15 rope. PLUS immobilising foam. PLUS other toys.I showed it affects him, enough to stun him so that IM could throw him around like a toy.
He can pile ALL his toys onto OR, which is my point. Not JUST foam, or JUST cables, or JUST tasers. But all of them, spammed.
Like here, when he fights Emperor Penguin. He spams acid batarangs, tasers, and gas:
Again, my point is that in character, he empties his belt of toys. Red isn't JUST resisting foam - but cabling, foam, ice, tasers, acid, the whole shebang. Bats would and has thrown everything at foes before.
As for your point about Cyborg?
How about Superman:
just pointed out that without his tenticales he is class 10 alone. his tentacles crush concrete and tanks. colossus couldnt handle his tentacles... i dont thing a big buble gum is going to hold him.
we dont know how powerful was the electricity ironman used. also, after he recovers from batmans electricity, if it will even stun him in the first place, there isnt much batman can do. as i said, batman is not ironman.
and as i said, it wont do any good vs someone who has carboranium armor as well as a healing factor. acid? its like a glove on his hand to handle acid. as i told you already, colossus and wolverine commented that nothing aside of freezing omega red could put him down.
everything you mentioned will do nothing against him. its not the quantity but quality. if i have thousand of candies to throw at omega red it doesnt mean he will go down.
Originally posted by Dareangel
first of all how powerful was that explosion. secondly the explosion is a 1 time mass and thats it, once you contain it its all over. omega red with his tentacles can break concrete and rip apart a tank. also, creating constant pressure on the foam since its not a 1 hit explosion but the tenticales using their force to rip the foam apart over and over will eventually rip thru.
When in fact, he can't. No leverage. I can snap something, but encase me completely in a block of the same material? Whilst I'm also tied up in cabling that's stronger than me, whilst other toys are being dumped on me? No chance.
as for the electricity, we dont know how powerful was the electricity voltage used by ironman. for all that we know it could be more powerful. and of course, i will point again that it didnt take him out. omega red has carboranium armor and a healing factor better than wolverines. no electricity is taking him out. wolverine and colossus stated that thru all the years they know omega red, their only chance to defeat him was to freeze him. unless batman has some serious freezing powers with him, like mr freezes gun on a high level, i dont see him stopping red with anyhting.
And of course, I then posted a scan of his tasers affecting Superman. You want to argue OR has better durability than Supes, be my guest.
He does actually have freezing weaponry on him as well, actually. So that's more stuff he can throw on.
Again:
Batman isn't just throwing a 15-ton cable, then sitting back It's the cable, plus the foam, plus the freezing, plus the tasers, etc etc etc that's all being piled on.
Originally posted by Dareangel
just pointed out that without his tenticales he is class 10 alone. his tentacles crush concrete and tanks. colossus couldnt handle his tentacles... i dont thing a big buble gum is going to hold him.we dont know how powerful was the electricity ironman used. also, after he recovers from batmans electricity, if it will even stun him in the first place, there isnt much batman can do. as i said, batman is not ironman.
and as i said, it wont do any good vs someone who has carboranium armor as well as a healing factor. acid? its like a glove on his hand to handle acid. as i told you already, colossus and wolverine commented that nothing aside of freezing omega red could put him down.
everything you mentioned will do nothing against him. its not the quantity but quality. if i have thousand of candies to throw at omega red it doesnt mean he will go down.
As you said. Quantity, not quality. He's not adding his own strength to the tentacles lol.
If all he is is class 10, the cables will hold him fine. Crushing concrete etc doesn't mean much, as you don't need class 10 strength or more just to crush it.
Never said acid. You are (purposefully?) misunderstanding me. The point of the Emperor Penguin scan was to show that he spams his toys.
And again. The tasers affect beings like Superman. It would kill OR if he used it, lol.
Originally posted by riv6672
Well, the foam's not holding anyone on ORs level, not sure who the cable's holding, IMs tasers are likely more powerful, and Cyborg's well, a Cyborg, more prone to feel that type of attack.
Thank GOD for no gas pellets, though!
What's OR's strength level?
Thank god I posted Superman, too. As for Cyborg being more prone, he actually has shields to guard against such an attack. So, if anything, he's LESS prone.
His tasers are designed for people like Croc, and Grundy, after all.
Originally posted by riv6672
So you're saying Bats wont use them, then. 😛
He would if all else fails. After all, he doesn't use acid on normal thugs - yet, here he was in the scans I helpfully posted.
If people want to argue he'd hold back, well, I've shown he has variations in the strength of his tasers (50k volts, and now, 10k volts).
Originally posted by riv6672
Well, not sure what the worst damage ORs ever tanked is, but Wolverine's come back from a nuke. If their HFs are comparable, Bats really might want to hand this one to WW...AKA though DS, thanks for turning this into a debate. 👆
Not talking about damage. And not talking about nukes - am fully aware that OR has a HF.
Am talking about immobilising, using items that are not only stronger than OR, but also remove his leverage.
Btw, for Dareangel: that was 50,000 volts that IM gave to OR. Now that you know, care to revisit your argument?
http://i.imgur.com/6nc3SS8.png
Which he can easily replicate:
I don't have the comic of Logan incapacitating Red with foam, so never thought of that. Would of naturally assumed Omega would be too good for such a cheap option :/
As for the volts, foam Arkady up stealth mode, light him up and have time to flex in front of WW I spose lol.
Still, just an extremely cheap way to win. Fuk you Wolverine
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not talking about damage. And not talking about nukes - am fully aware that OR has a HF.Am talking about immobilising, using items that are not only stronger than OR, but also remove his leverage.
Btw, for Dareangel: that was 50,000 volts that IM gave to OR. Now that you know, care to revisit your argument?
http://i.imgur.com/6nc3SS8.png
Which he can easily replicate:
