WWH vs. Yoda

Started by Damborgson6 pages

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Fight starts.

*thunderclap*

Fight over.

I dont know if Yoda's thunderclap is that strong but I guess you could make a strong case for him.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Green scar can be easily argued to be at least 1000 x stronger at base than Savage Hulk is let alone Banner-Hulk from Secret wars (Banner in control of Hulk's body and per usual limiting his rage.had to get tricked into getting stronger via rage), and the mountain range bracing incident is very similar to Yoda holding him "telekinetically" against the power of his entire body.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
p2

Not to mention the same Green scar pulling the tectonic plates of Saakar back together as they were being forced apart by the Red king's doomsday device. Saakar is a planet far larger than Earth is

I knew it was only a matter of time before the SW feat got posted...

Still, I like it when you rep the Hulk. Not so much when you flirt with thorbags pack, though. Never mate with enemies, pg.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I dont know if Yoda's thunderclap is that strong but I guess you could make a strong case for him.

Ummm they might both be green and roughly the same height and weight, but Yoda can't thunderclap.

1) Damb was kidding.

2) Yoda may very well be able to emulate t-clap effects with the Force.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
1) Damb was kidding.

Oh wow.

I've got some carver-lv sarcasm detectors. I feel as if I own the Internet.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Green scar can be easily argued to be at least 1000 x stronger at base than Savage Hulk is let alone Banner-Hulk from Secret wars (Banner in control of Hulk's body and per usual limiting his rage.had to get tricked into getting stronger via rage), and the mountain range bracing incident is very similar to Yoda holding him "telekinetically" against the power of his entire body.

*Hulk isn't holding the entire mountain there -- just *a portion of* the mountain.

Still a cool feat, but I'm not sure why it matters in regards to Yoda..? Sure, WWH is strong enough to lift mountains, but Yoda could theoretically attack him with a slew of invisible mountain-lifting TK attacks... Lets be honest: not even WWH is tanking that type of shit.

Dunno who takes this, but Hulk isn't winning 'with ease' like some have claimed... I see Yoda BFR'ing him as more likely option than anything else I've heard, tbh. /shrug

Afaik, Spider-Man & SW is canon.

This is what I don't get about WWH.

He's the most powerful/strongest/durable Hulk to date.

Ok, I get that.

I've seen Savage tank some of the attacks that affected WWH, however.

When the Gamma Corps devolved WWH - I've seen Savage shrug similar attacks off. Yet, it worked on WWH.

Based on Savage's performance, however, he shouldn't have even felt it. So we can't just extrapolate based off Savage/other versions of Hulk.

Smh at Galan's editing.

He's acting as if we don't screenshot his posts the moment they appear.

😂 I removed the Spidey/SW bit because I feel like it would have taken this discussion to places it simply needn't go.

The way I see it: Hulk lifting a portion of a mountain has absolutely nothing to do with this battle. The only thing it proves is that Hulk could brace/hold any buildings Yoda dropped on him -- but Yoda obviously isn't restricted to throwing objects at him. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
😂 I removed the Spidey/SW bit because I feel like it would have taken this discussion to places it simply needn't go.

The way I see it: Hulk lifting a portion of a mountain has absolutely nothing to do with this battle. The only thing it proves is that Hulk could brace/hold any buildings Yoda dropped on him -- but Yoda obviously isn't restricted to throwing objects at him. 👆

My point was that Yoda could lift a mountain that was resisting him, and was immune to his powers.

He could throw the Hulk into space.

Nightcrawler managed to move him, after all. And he was limited by the Hulk's mass.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Smh at Galan's editing.

He's acting as if we don't screenshot his posts the moment they appear.

Old man Galan probably doesn't even know what a screenshot is hes probably ducking for cover as we speak.

And what if Hulk uses his anti-bfr powers?

Originally posted by Galan007
*Hulk isn't holding the entire mountain there -- just *a portion of* the mountain.

Still a cool feat, but I'm not sure why it matters in regards to Yoda..? Sure, WWH is strong enough to lift mountains, but Yoda could theoretically attack him with a slew of invisible mountain-lifting TK attacks... Lets be honest: not even WWH is tanking that type of shit.

Dunno who takes this, but Hulk isn't winning 'with ease' like some have claimed... I see Yoda BFR'ing him as more likely option than anything else I've heard, tbh. /shrug

It's a portion, yes, but the mountain cracked when it hit the ground so Hulk held up "2 miles" of loose rock that can shift. The rock monster Yoda restrained with the force maybe equal to that 2 mile size if you highball, but the point is that it would take a similar amount of effort from the force as it took a weaker Hulk form to do essentially the same task. Fast forward to Green scar who's actually in this thread outperforming that feat exponentially per arm.

Bfr is a given but can Yoda's force restrain Green scar? I think that's dubious at best. Maybe Vector scans would be more appropriate but whatever

Again, what's stopping Hulk from thunderclapping Yoda into nothingness at the start of the fight?

Maybe Legends Jedi have the speed feats to stop this from happening, but this is canon Yoda, and I don't think he's anywhere close to as fast as Hulk is.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I've got some carver-lv sarcasm detectors. I feel as if I own the Internet.

Can never hide anything from you damnit Stilt.

Anywho, I don't know, Yoda of course has access to great power, but to overcome the freakin force of nature constantly throwing himself at him and amping in power, breaking the landscape, etc. I don't think he can pull it off.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Bfr is a given but can Yoda's force restrain Green scar?
This is a tough question to answer with any kind of certainty. I mean, the mountain-creature was very resistant to the force(Yoda could barely even move small pebbles comprised of this material beforehand.) Despite this, Yoda was still capable of telekinetically immobilizing several other force-sensitives whilst holding the entire mountain(which implies that holding the mountain alone didn't tax him.) With that in mind, logic dictates he could do much, much more under 'normal' circumstances.

*On a sidenote: it could be argued that Yoda was still tired/weakened to some extent when he confronted the mountain-creature, given that he alluded to being nigh-exhausted shortly beforehand:

...But that's neither here nor there.

In answer to your question: do I believe Yoda's TK, if used in an 'all-out' capacity, is potentially strong enough to at least grab/hold Hulk long enough to fling him away for a BFR win? Yeah, I think it's possible.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Again, what's stopping Hulk from thunderclapping Yoda into nothingness at the start of the fight?

Maybe Legends Jedi have the speed feats to stop this from happening, but this is canon Yoda, and I don't think he's anywhere close to as fast as Hulk is.

Yoda doesn't have much in the way of speed feats. However, stalemating Palpatine, whose speed is pretty well-established(often described by even Jedi/Sith Masters as 'blur-esque', 'nearly invisible', etc.) shows us the levels at which he can operate when need be. Also keep in mind that Yoda is quite an adept precog -- if used in conjunction with his speed, this could be an invaluable tool, imo.

Originally posted by Inedian
WWH still wins. Too much force for Yoda.

Pun?

This is dumb. How in the world is Yoda force holding one of the strongest character in comics. Sad thing is, someone is comparing Hulk to a mountain creature who's fts doesn't come close to Hulk. It's dumb.