WWH vs. Yoda

Started by DarkSaint856 pages

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I get these points, but I'm still not getting where you're both claiming Hulk will be Bfr'd to?

You think Yoda's throwing him into space? Lol Because anywhere else and Hulk is leaping back the next second.

Plus I find even the notion of Yoda gripping Hulk mid leap to be dubious, and a pretty speculative case for Yoda.

Here's me speculating on what Hulk would do in that scenario.. IF he gets gripped while in mid leap, then Hulk will thunderclap Yoda. My "speculation" here however has actual backing as it's something Hulk has done multiple times over. Yoda gripping something as strong as Hulk mid-air and Bfr'ing him into space however is speculation with Zero backing from any part of Star Wars canon.

If into space, then sure.

Except it has backing from WWH's canon. Nightcrawler gripped him, and sent him a short distance away.

He didn't grab Nightcrawler and punch him away, or throw him, or thunderclap him away, or whatever. Nightcrawler grabbed him (like a Yoda fist) and 'threw' him. Except NC is one of the weakest teleporters out there, and was unable to due to WWH's mass.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I get these points, but I'm still not getting where you're both claiming Hulk will be Bfr'd to?

You think Yoda's throwing him into space? Lol Because anywhere else and Hulk is leaping back the next second.

Plus I find even the notion of Yoda gripping Hulk mid leap to be dubious, and a pretty speculative case for Yoda.

Here's me speculating on what Hulk would do in that scenario.. IF he gets gripped while in mid leap, then Hulk will thunderclap Yoda. My "speculation" here however has actual backing as it's something Hulk has done multiple times over. Yoda gripping something as strong as Hulk mid-air and Bfr'ing him into space however is speculation with Zero backing from any part of Star Wars canon.

how do you find the thought of him gripping the hulk in mid leap to be dubious? We've already seen a multi ton mountain that was force resistant get held in place and what exactly is going to stop Yoda from erecting a force bubble to protect himself from the thunderclap? Hulk managing to successfully thunderclap him depends on whether Yoda decides to hold the hulk in a direction that faces him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
People are getting the wrong idea.

No one is saying he's going to hold the Hulk down with an invisible fist.

Imagine throwing a cat. All it takes is that initial grab - when the cat is actually in flight, you're not holding it, are you?

Basically, this:

EXCEPT Yoda, as demonstrated, can move FAR larger items than Nightcrawler.

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Originally posted by Sin I AM
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For whom 😈

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
For whom 😈

Well for one Kurt has teleported a larger amount of mass than Hulk. WWH was such a trash arc

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Except it has backing from WWH's canon. Nightcrawler gripped him, and sent him a short distance away.

He didn't grab Nightcrawler and punch him away, or throw him, or thunderclap him away, or whatever. Nightcrawler grabbed him (like a Yoda fist) and 'threw' him. Except NC is one of the weakest teleporters out there, and was unable to due to WWH's mass.

So we're going to use 1 low showing for Hulk being caught off guard to try and make a case for Yoda here?

I mean are you really making the case here that anyone stronger than Nightcrawler can throw a Hulk whose ready for them.

Then you're taking it to another level saying Yoda will grip him in mid-air, I.e. easily resist the Force of Hulk's leap, and then just throw him into space (out of character for Yoda) with Hulk just baffled not knowing what to do Lol

The only advantage I see Yoda having here is Hulk underestimating him.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
So we're going to use 1 low showing for Hulk being caught off guard to try and make a case for Yoda here?

I mean are you really making the case here that anyone strange than Nightcrawler can throw a Hulk whose ready for them.

Then you're taking it too another level saying Yoda will grip him in mid-air, I.e. easily resist the Force of Hulk's leap, and then just throw him into space (out of character for Yoda) with Hulk just baffled not knowing what to do Lol

Low showing?

That implies that there are other showings of Nightcrawler attempting to, and failing to port WWH.

By all means, post them.

OP has said we used WWH in this thread. Fair enough.

All I have seen and shown, is the one time Nightcrawler ported WWH, he succeeded. If you have showings to the contrary, then post them.

I never said mid-leap? Not that he can't, but not sure where you are adding the mid-leap from. Because it makes Yoda's job even easier, when he throws Hulk on the upwards part of his leap.

Imagine jumping up into the air as hard as you can - and as you are travelling upwards, being pushed upwards.

Hulk would essentially BFR himself 👆

Ammong the many powers of the Hulk he is immovable and unstoppable.

It is preposterous to think Yoda could move the Hulk even if he has moved a larger mass that basically resists Yoda's own power, preposterous!!! mmm

Galan and Darksaint always pro superman closeted fans...

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This is not a Superman thread???...

Sorry, my bad!!!

Originally posted by carver9
This is dumb. How in the world is Yoda force holding one of the strongest character in comics. Sad thing is, someone is comparing Hulk to a mountain creature who's fts doesn't come close to Hulk. It's dumb.

Irony! such a ***** heh carver? Especially when used against you.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Low showing?

That implies that there are other showings of Nightcrawler attempting to, and failing to port WWH.

By all means, post them.

OP has said we used WWH in this thread. Fair enough.

All I have seen and shown, is the one time Nightcrawler ported WWH, he succeeded. If you have showings to the contrary, then post them.

I never said mid-leap? Not that he can't, but not sure where you are adding the mid-leap from. Because it makes Yoda's job even easier, when he throws Hulk on the upwards part of his leap.

Imagine jumping up into the air as hard as you can - and as you are travelling upwards, being pushed upwards.

Hulk would essentially BFR himself 👆

Urm like all his fights, lik never. When did Thor and Gladiator easily throw him around. How many times has Spider-Man fought Hulk? Did he ever chuck him around? Is Nightcrawler stronger than Spider-Man?

Lol yeah because every time Hulk leaps some High Herald Bfr's him into space right? The argument here in Yoda's favour is getting a bit ridiculous. And the reason for that is Star Wars in general is out of its depth when up against Marvel and DC high heralds.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Urm like all his fights, lik never. When did Thor and Gladiator easily throw him around. How many times has Spider-Man fought Hulk? Did he ever chuck him around? Is Nightcrawler stronger than Spider-Man?

Lol yeah because every time Hulk leaps some High Herald Bfr's him into space right? The argument here in Yoda's favour is getting a bit ridiculous. And the reason for that is Star Wars in general is out of its depth when up against Marvel and DC high heralds.

WWH feats, please.

Originally posted by cdtm
See that?

If that can shishkabab him, a lightsaber would do much worse.

Doubt this would ever get to sabers... Regardless of who wins.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Urm like all his fights, lik never. When did Thor and Gladiator easily throw him around. How many times has Spider-Man fought Hulk? Did he ever chuck him around? Is Nightcrawler stronger than Spider-Man?

Lol yeah because every time Hulk leaps some High Herald Bfr's him into space right? The argument here in Yoda's favour is getting a bit ridiculous. And the reason for that is Star Wars in general is out of its depth when up against Marvel and DC high heralds.

you're actually comparing Thor and gladiator and their use of physical force to a psuedo mystical force that hulk can niether resist or break? Also, Thor, gladiator, Hercules, and Luke Cage have all put the hulk flat on his ass at one point or another.

I don't think you understand, things like physical strength and leverage have no bearing on the force or telekenisis in general. Also, a while back, you said that the only way that Yoda wins is if he's underestimated. They're fighting in character and we've seen the hulk underestimate his opponents before. Tell me why he's not going to underestimate the three foot tall green old man?

Originally posted by deathslash

I don't think you understand, things like physical strength and leverage have no bearing on the force or telekenisis in general.

Now that's for you to prove.

In a Vader comic he couldn't force choke a rancor because it had a cybernetic reinforced throat.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
WWH feats, please.

He could hardly be budged by Juggernaut's best blows.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Now that's for you to prove.

In a Vader comic he couldn't force choke a rancor because it had a cybernetic reinforced throat.

He could hardly be budged by Juggernaut's best blows.

With leverage, sure. He can brace against the ground (which is exactly what he did with Juggy).

Removed of that leverage, with nothing to brace against? Nightcrawler ported him easy.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
He could hardly be budged by Juggernaut's best blows.

What a lie. He was bleeding like a virgin and had to resort to BFR to save himself.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Now that's for you to prove.

In a Vader comic he couldn't force choke a rancor because it had a cybernetic reinforced throat.

We saw Vader fight through that 'weakness' later in the series, though. He used the force to overcome Cylo having completely crippled the electronics in his own suit.

Also, we're talking about Yoda here.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What a lie. He was bleeding like a virgin and had to resort to BFR to save himself.
😆 You perv

Originally posted by iceman24567
😆 You perv
Stilt has filled Mindset's shoes quite nicely. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
Stilt has filled Mindset's shoes quite nicely. 👆
👆 We all miss pre crisis Mindset good thing Stilty has taken up the mantle