Do 'real people' worry about SJWS/feminism?

Started by ArtificialGlory7 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
ArtificalG,

To add about how these people will normalize, take what would be considered the "SJW" of the 60's-early 70's, the hippy/flowerchild. Look at them now, most of them grew up and joined corporate America cos having money is nice and some even became Republicans.


That's what we're hoping is going to happen, but some of them won't and they will continue to poison society and academia with their hardline, far-left ideas. No reason to not call them out on their bullshit.

And some of them waste their college education in ****ing gender studies lol

It's their time "wasted", so why do you care?

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
That's what we're hoping is going to happen, but some of them won't and they will continue to poison society and academia with their hardline, far-left ideas. No reason to not call them out on their bullshit.

Okay then.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
That's what we're hoping is going to happen, but some of them won't and they will continue to poison society and academia with their hardline, far-left ideas. No reason to not call them out on their bullshit.

Also I feel like comparing the "SJW's" from the 1960s and 1970s to the current ones just does them a disservice. They were fighting for their rights, they were marching against unjust wars, etc. Sure if the term existed at the time some might have called them SJW's, but history is on their side. Vietnam WAS an unjust war.

Will history be on this generations side? Is there anyone who honestly believes that? Are we going to say "in hindsight, yeah, hiding from opposing ideas was the right thing to do"?

Originally posted by Surtur

Will history be on this generations side? Is there anyone who honestly believes that? Are we going to say "in hindsight, yeah, hiding from opposing ideas was the right thing to do"?

maybe that, or maybe: "in hindsight, yeah, demonizing everyone with opposing ideas and lumping them together as "sjw" was the right thing to do"

Originally posted by Surtur
Also I feel like comparing the "SJW's" from the 1960s and 1970s to the current ones just does them a disservice. They were fighting for their rights, they were marching against unjust wars, etc. Sure if the term existed at the time some might have called them SJW's, but history is on their side. Vietnam WAS an unjust war.

Will history be on this generations side? Is there anyone who honestly believes that? Are we going to say "in hindsight, yeah, hiding from opposing ideas was the right thing to do"?


Yeah, or something like "white people really shouldn't wear dreadlocks" or "communism really is a fantastic idea". The sooner they sober up, the better.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Yeah, or something like "white people really shouldn't wear dreadlocks" or "communism really is a fantastic idea". The sooner they sober up, the better.

Also wait the more I think about the generation from 60s and 70s and the current one....there is another major difference: coddling. The flower children weren't really coddled, in fact it was the opposite. You had the national guard at one point showing up and killing several young people at Kent State. I was watching this documentary the other day and it was showing a news segment from the 60s about how a large group of high school students had shown up to this draft card burning session and started WAILING on the college kids that were there burning their draft cards.

We see violence on campus today, but it's usually directed at those students whose views are in the minority(i.e. not liberals). So those flower kids were able to grow up and go get jobs and become Republicans because they were not coddled.

Originally posted by carthage
I was watching Sargon's video criticizing the "liberal" beltway in Washington, and bitching about Samantha Bee. He used the term "Real people" which I'm going to assume is your average every day American who may or may not be a political ideologue as him and his viewers are. In your everyday life surrounded by your average human being, do you encounter anyone who actually sees SJWS and feminism as at the very least an annoyance or to the extreme an existential threat?

Is it just the product of politically isolated people bitching on Youtube and other social media sites to you? Or do you think that the Average person loses sleep over reading an article from some crazed College professor about cultural appropriation?

Thoughts


I don't know if I'd qualify as and average person by your definition, but I definately take issue with any groups who activily work to shut down things like free speech. And that's not to say that all SJWs do such a thing, but it does seem to be happening with enough frequency that I'd say it's a problem. Especially since it happens so often on college campuses where young people are SUPPOSED to be exposed to viewpoints that differ from their own.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't know if I'd qualify as and average person by your definition, but I definately take issue with any groups who activily work to shut down things like free speech. And that's not to say that all SJWs do such a thing, but it does seem to be happening with enough frequency that I'd say it's a problem. Especially since it happens so often on college campuses where young people are SUPPOSED to be exposed to viewpoints that differ from their own.

This brings up a good point: let us assume most "real" people do not worry about stuff like this. The question is...should they? Or is the implication that these things are not worthy of worrying about even a tiny tiny bit? Which, to me, would be just another way of saying that these things will go away if we simply ignore them.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Especially since it happens so often on college campuses where young people are SUPPOSED to be exposed to viewpoints that differ from their own.

this always confuses me: the argument that someone's education is somehow hampered by the lack of exposure to extremist activist rallies.
i was absent from a 'nation of islam' speech at my old uni, and to this day i'm still convinced that it had no ill effect on the quality my education.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
maybe that, or maybe: "in hindsight, yeah, demonizing everyone with opposing ideas and lumping them together as "sjw" was the right thing to do"

Is it demonizing entire groups that bothers you or is it just when that is done to "sjws" you think it's an issue?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
this always confuses me: the argument that someone's education is somehow hampered by the lack of exposure to extremist activist rallies.
i was absent from a 'nation of islam' speech at my old uni, and to this day i'm still convinced that it had no ill effect on the quality my education.
I just want to know where all these concerned citizens where when Tennessee politicians enacted (or tried to, forget) laws prohibiting few speech on public colleges cos 'something, something, ISIS'.

It's almost like random college kids > actual law makers

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
this always confuses me: the argument that someone's education is somehow hampered by the lack of exposure to extremist activist rallies.
i was absent from a 'nation of islam' speech at my old uni, and to this day i'm still convinced that it had no ill effect on the quality my education.

Extremist should be allowed to speak as a matter of principle. Otherwise(at least in theory) all the powers that be have to do to shut down speech that they don't like is to classify those saying it as extremists. I don't support the message contained within actual hate speech but I still believe it's important for it to be allowed to be said for two reasons. One, the "go to" tactic to shut down the other side of any serious debate will be to find a way to spin it as hate speech even if it's not. Two, I think it's better to let actual hate groups reveal themselves and what they believe so there'll be less people supporting their causes unknowingly. I'm part Chinese and I'd much rather allow someone to call me a POS, yellow, chink openly so I know not to treat them as friends or support any buisnesses they run than to have their meetings shut down and never know anyone who's working against me behind closed doors. Barring the speech in public won't stop it in private, it just keeps anyone else from knowing what's being said.

Originally posted by Surtur
Is it demonizing entire groups that bothers you or is it just when that is done to "sjws" you think it's an issue?

not in all cases. like when someone compulsively deflects from the point in order to never have to formulate an argument to defend their own position. these people deserve to be lumped together into a group labeled "cowards", imo. however to go on and assume that everyone on the right is a coward would be retarded.

Originally posted by Robtard
I just want to know where all these concerned citizens where when Tennessee politicians enacted (or tried to, forget) laws prohibiting few speech on public colleges cos 'something, something, ISIS'.

It's almost like random college kids > actual law makers

So deflections are now okay? Okie dokie.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
not in all cases. like when someone compulsively deflects from the point in order to never have to formulate an argument to defend their own position. these people deserve to be lumped together into a group labeled "cowards", imo.

I'd agree, another situation of a coward would be a person who constantly ignores how often their own pals behave a certain way.

however to go on and assume that everyone on the right is a coward would be retarded.

Interesting, so what about Trump supporters? Would it be equally retarded to make any assumption about every single one of them? Or would it be another one of those cases where fee fee's win out over facts?

No offense, but it's obvious you're just saying "deflection" there cos you hate it when it's used against you and I might add it's out of context again. Cos what exactly am I deflecting from here, Surt?

Originally posted by Surtur
I'd agree, another situation of a coward would be a person who constantly ignores how often their own pals do it.

nah, you're just deflecting by making accusations, because that's one of your four favorite infantile coping mechanisms.

Originally posted by Surtur
Interesting, so what about Trump supporters? Would it be equally retarded to make any assumption about every single one of them?

i have a negative opinion of trump supporters. however i don't label everyone i disagree with as a trump supporter, as some halfassed pussy-method of dismissing points without having to actually address them.

it would be retarded to group everyone who is not of the same mindset as me under a derogatory label, which is what you have made a hobby of doing. but have fun with your mental gymnastic games. i predict another stunning upset pretend-win for you 👆

Originally posted by Robtard
I just want to know where all these concerned citizens where when Tennessee politicians enacted (or tried to, forget) laws prohibiting few speech on public colleges cos 'something, something, ISIS'.

It's almost like random college kids > actual law makers


If I'd have heard of such a thing I most certainly would've taken issue with it. Just as I take serious issue with the "free speech zones" that I found out about during Bush's speechs. This is America after all, the whole freaking country is supposed to be a free speech zone. As long as there's no kind of actual violence or disruption to the proceedings going on people should be able to say ANYTHING they want anywhere they want.