I think examples like this best describe Trump:
President Trump during an interview that airs Monday questioned why the country had a Civil War and suggested former President Andrew Jackson could have prevented it had he served later."I mean had Andrew Jackson been a little bit later you wouldn't have had the Civil War. He was a very tough person, but he had a big heart," Trump said during an interview with the Washington Examiner's Salena Zito.
"He was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War, he said, 'There's no reason for this.'"
Jackson, the nation's seventh president, died in 1845. The Civil War began in 1861.
The president further questioned why the country could not have solved the Civil War.
"People don't realize, you know, the Civil War, if you think about it, why?" Trump said during the edition of "Main Street Meets the Beltway" scheduled to air on SiriusXM.
"People don't ask that question, but why was there the Civil War? Why could that one not have been worked out?"
During the interview, the president also compared his win to that of Jackson.
"My campaign and win was most like Andrew Jackson, with his campaign. And I said, when was Andrew Jackson? It was 1828. That's a long time ago," Trump said."That's Andrew Jackson. And he had a very, very mean and nasty campaign. Because they said this was the meanest and the nastiest. And unfortunately, it continues."
Trump has in the past drawn comparisons between his campaign and that of Jackson.
Ahead of a March rally, the president compared his presidency to Jackson's while marking the birthday of the seventh president.
Speaking outside The Hermitage, Jackson's estate in Nashville, Tenn., Trump referred to Jackson as the people's president.
"It was during the revolution that Jackson first confronted and defied an arrogant elite. Does that sound familiar?" Trump said ahead of his rally earlier this year.Trump said his visit to The Hermitage was "inspirational" and that he is "a fan."
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/331349-trump-why-was-there-the-civil-war
I don't think Donald Trump suffers from a mental illness but I think he represents some of the worst that America has to offer intellectually. He's lazy, dislikes reading, is not very well spoken, does not fact check and basically says whatever he wants whenever he wants without taking responsibility for his words and/or actions. He's also pretty stupid from what I've seen. And I'm not talking about overall knowledge of topics he discusses (Which he does a lot of) but I mean at the most basic level, he lacks some common sense and reasoning which unfortunately cannot be taught, at least for a man of his age who will only get worse as time goes by.
The damage he is doing the seat of POTUS in the eyes of the international community is terrible. He has lowered the bar so terribly, I feel bad for your country.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The damage he is doing the seat of POTUS in the eyes of the international community is terrible. He has lowered the bar so terribly, I feel bad for your country.
Don't worry, when Warren wins in 2018 the bar will be set to record highs like it was with Obama back then, she won't be able to fart without scrutiny.
Imagine if Obama or H. Clinton had five children with three different spouses, were serial adulterers and had bragged about being sexual predators. The Right would have been beyond words on how anti American and family values that is and what examples are we showing our children. Think of the children.
Originally posted by Robtard
That's a problem we're facing, imo. Normalizing behavior that would damage any other President.Though that's a problem with Trump supporters and not Trump, they refuse to hold him to a high standard that other contemporary presidents have been held to. In fact, the bar has been lowered for him.
The problem is this is something we have always seen present in politics that is now being taken to the extreme. His supporters tend to overlook it because Trumps personality is one of the reasons they wanted him in the first place, he has been portrayed as an "outsider" and thus behavior outside the norm is more tolerated and at times even welcomed.
Trump is just a symptom of a much more serious disease. We normalize shady behavior in a profession where trust is very important, yet we expect all politicians to lie to us on some level. We have now seen where that kind of complacency can lead.
Trump's a wealthy and prominent white man... But being an "outsider" isn't anything new in politics, two somewhat recent examples: Ron Paul (and to an extent his son) was an outsider. John McCain was an outsider with his "he's a maverick" status. Yet they didn't get a free pass. Edit: Do we need to mention Dr. Ben Carson?
We could technically say Clinton and Obama were "outsiders", considering their 'outside the norm' as they broke away from the status quo of rich white males being POTUS.
How does one excuse something like rampant bigotry with *lol* "oh, he's an outsider shaking things up". Explain that as a Trump supporter?
Honestly, it seems like you're once again doing your best to excuse Trump and his supporters' lack of accountability with a "it's not their fault, they're victims of the evil system." angle. Shame on you, sir. Not on my watch.
Originally posted by Robtard
Trump's a wealthy and prominent white man... But being an "outsider" isn't anything new in politics, two somewhat recent examples: Ron Paul (and to an extent his son) was an outsider. John McCain was an outsider with his "he's a maverick" status. Yet they didn't get a free pass.We could technically say Clinton and Obama were "outsiders", considering their 'outside the norm' as they broke away from the status quo of rich white males being POTUS.
How does one excuse something like rampant bigotry with *lol* "oh, he's an outsider shaking things up". Explain that as a Trump supporter?
Honestly, it seems like you're once again doing your best to excuse Trump and his supporters' lack of accountability with a "it's not their fault, they're victims of the evil system." angle. Shame on you, sir. Not on my watch.
I didn't say it was just his outsider status, but his overall personality and it being a reason that drew people to him.
I never said it wasn't their fault, a lot of people ignore major faults in candidates they favor, and it's never anyone elses fault but their own. People on both sides are blinded, it's not just Trump supporters. Hilary supporters don't hold her accountable for losing the election, not really. They hold everyone else accountable. Russia, wikileaks, Jim Comey, Misogyny, white people, racism, etc. Everyone but their candidate. So any notion of the liberal voters being superior is not going to fly, not on my watch.
Originally posted by Robtard
Don't worry, when Warren wins in 2018 the bar will be set to record highs like it was with Obama back then, she won't be able to fart without scrutiny.
Sure, scrutiny from conservatives. Sort of like Trump could never do anything without scrutiny from liberals. The excuse of "he's president!" would fly if this only began after he won.
I have no doubt her "Native American" status will come up again though. As well as her hypocrisy.
Imagine if Obama or H. Clinton had five children with three different spouses, were serial adulterers and had bragged about being sexual predators. The Right would have been beyond words on how anti American and family values that is and what examples are we showing our children. Think of the children.
Clinton forgave an adulterer and went after any female that tended to accuse her husband of wrong doing. Then she had the audacity to say things like "women have a right to be believed".
Originally posted by Surtur
Sure, scrutiny from conservatives. Sort of like Trump could never do anything without scrutiny from liberals. The excuse of "he's president!" would fly if this only began after he won.I have no doubt her "Native American" status will come up again though. As well as her hypocrisy.
Clinton forgave an adulterer and went after any female that tended to accuse her husband of wrong doing. Then she had the audacity to say things like "women have a right to be believed".
Um, Trump's only been president for about 100days and in case you've already forgotten multiple liberal and/or Democrats and outlets praised him as "presidential" when he sent missiles Syria.
She's as much (1/32nd iirc) or less Native American as many others claim and seems seemingly received no benefits due to her Native heritage. I love how just the mention of another woman running for POTUS has you already on the attack though. Relax, sport, she may not even run.
A woman forgiving her cheating husband isn't anything new or even out of the ordinary. But I see you needed something to avoid the point I made about inequality and floating standards.
Originally posted by Surtur
I didn't say it was just his outsider status, but his overall personality and it being a reason that drew people to him.I never said it wasn't their fault, a lot of people ignore major faults in candidates they favor, and it's never anyone elses fault but their own. People on both sides are blinded, it's not just Trump supporters. Hilary supporters don't hold her accountable for losing the election, not really. They hold everyone else accountable. Russia, wikileaks, Jim Comey, Misogyny, white people, racism, etc. Everyone but their candidate. So any notion of the liberal voters being superior is not going to fly, not on my watch.
Actually it's literally the point you brought up and focused on. Anyhow. But Presidential hopeful Trump was a comically deplorable shit-show. So think about what you're saying in regards to his voters.
So back to more: 'Trump voters didn't elect Trump, Clinton and Clinton supporters did'. See: Zero Accountability. Which is funny, because if Trump was doing fantastic in regards to his promises. New and better healthcare, Mexico agreed to pay for the wall, banned Muslims, shut down so-called "sanctuary cities", drained the swamp, destroyed ISIS in 30days etc, you as a Trump voter would be smugly patting your own back for electing him. This is a fact.
Originally posted by Surtur
Sure, scrutiny from conservatives. Sort of like Trump could never do anything without scrutiny from liberals. The excuse of "he's president!" would fly if this only began after he won.I have no doubt her "Native American" status will come up again though. As well as her hypocrisy.
Clinton forgave an adulterer and went after any female that tended to accuse her husband of wrong doing. Then she had the audacity to say things like "women have a right to be believed".
The dude just compared himself to Jackson, incorrectly I might add.
Jackson was a racist bigot by Southern Standards. He was an all around terrible human being, the symbolic evil white man caricatures you would see in a comic book. He was a crap President too. He had hundred(s?) of slaves. And Trump thinks he would have solved the Civil War? Yea sure, by moving Slavery up North probably.
Liberals do hawk over everything Trump says but it would be irresponsible not to. He just compared himself to the Native American version of Hitler (Albeit hyperbole in terms of numbers but just research something of the things he did....)!
Common bro, this isn't even about politics anymore, it's about having some f*cking decency and respect for the office. I don't care of Clinton liked getting gang banged in Lincoln's room on her down time as POTUS as long as it didn't cost Taxpayer's money, it's better than this.
Lol, this is why the BS you guys say goes in one ear and out the other for me. It's about decency and respect for the office? Where are you guys when people are disrespecting Trump and thus the office? *Crickets chirping*
This is why liberals aren't taken seriously, and to be honest rather than respond with an asinine excuse as to why you have to disrespect Trump I'd rather you just not dig that hole, okay?
Since a person can be critical without being obnoxious and disrespectful. I don't give a shit if you disrespect Trump, but do not then whine about him being disrespectful. It's just silly.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He's lazy, dislikes reading, is not very well spoken, does not fact check and basically says whatever he wants whenever he wants without taking responsibility for his words and/or actions. He's also pretty stupid from what I've seen. And I'm not talking about overall knowledge of topics he discusses (Which he does a lot of) but I mean at the most basic level, he lacks some common sense and reasoning which unfortunately cannot be taught, at least for a man of his age who will only get worse as time goes by.
You just described all of his supporters. They like him because he is just like them. And if he can be wealthy or be the president, then so can they! They do not have to feel bad about their mediocrity if they turn the presidency into an Us Weekly column: The president is just like us!
Lyndon B. Johnson was right, "If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you." Stupid hick trash, all of them.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
You just described all of his supporters. They like him because he is just like them. And if he can be wealthy or be the president, then so can they! They do not have to feel bad about their mediocrity if they turn the presidency into an Us Weekly column: The president is just like us!Lyndon B. Johnson was right, "If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you." Stupid hick trash, all of them.
Awesome, just awesome. Attitudes like this will make sure he wins again in 2020 👆
Why not just label them deplorables?