Superman Prime 1 Million Vs King Thor

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Superman Prime 1 Million Vs King Thor

This is Golden Version

Nothing to go off except statements

Superman prime (one million/golden) is said to power the entire Superman line including Superman one million who is said to be immune to magic....

^ I don't think Prime would have gained the immunity to magic, tbh. After all, the Superman lineage inherited that 'ability' when the Superman of the 67th century married the Imp-Queen -- which was thousandS of years before Prime finally came back to earth from his self-imposed exile to the Source Wall. /shrug

Anyway, I always like posting the chronological history of the Superman Dynasty... Adds quite a bit of depth to the story as a whole:

KT. Prime is featless.

The only feat Prime 1 million has is sitting in the sun and smiling.

i guess you have to ask yourself how powerful have we seen superman after small sun dipping sessions, then ask yourself if he was that powerful after a short stay near the sun, how powerful might he be after, what? thousands of years in there...? featless yes, but that is not the same as saying we have no viable way to at least speculate on a general power level. /shrug

there is a problem with your logic. then we have to ask ourselves, the next question. we know that the more superman is in the sun the more powerful he gets. that is based on the times he sundipped and it was stated. however, the question is, how powerful can he really get? what are the limits until he is fully charged? can he be fully charged or can he be charged to an infinity level of power? is it stated somewhere? if not then we can assume that after 1 day of sundip or several hours, he gets to the full power capacity he is able to achieve. after that , sitting in the sun only reserves that amount of power. dont forget one thing, golden 1 million used a GL ring to crush the already beaten up super sun. not too powerful showing to be honest.

Originally posted by Dareangel
The only feat Prime 1 million has is sitting in the sun and smiling.

He did crush Solaris with the ring. (Something he kept, and would have.)

Major, major will feat, considering what it did fo Kyle.

Also, I believe he used it to "recreate" Lois Lane (In a typically creepy and "wrong" Morrison moment.)

Originally posted by cdtm
He did crush Solaris with the ring. (Something he kept, and would have.)

Major, major will feat, considering what it did fo Kyle.

Also, I believe he used it to "recreate" Lois Lane (In a typically creepy and "wrong" Morrison moment.)

if we get more serious then yes, but then again, needing the GL Ring to crush an already beaten up solaris, is not a major major feat. while solaris was at full power it took green lantern and kal kent to defeat it. after that, solaris was beaten up and exhausted. the fact the golden prime 1 million, the living hype needed a GL ring to defeat such thing.... you get the picture. i see king thor destroying it with easy. i am talking about king thor at the end of his arc right? the one who oneshotted desak in the destroyer armor.

Originally posted by cdtm
He did crush Solaris with the ring. (Something he kept, and would have.)

Major, major will feat, considering what it did fo Kyle.

Also, I believe he used it to "recreate" Lois Lane (In a typically creepy and "wrong" Morrison moment.)

typically creepy? lol

but you're right, given how powerful solaris was, and given the ease with which superman dealt with it, that is indeed an impressive feat of will power.

OWAW Sun-dipped Superman would shitstomp King Thor.

Given the fact that Supes 1Mil [who is the same Superman] is several orders of magnitude more sundipped, this wouldn't even be a fight.

Originally posted by leonidas
typically creepy? lol

but you're right, given how powerful solaris was, and given the ease with which superman dealt with it, that is indeed an impressive feat of will power.

so you are not going to take into account solaris was beaten up and out of power after green lantern and kal kent defeated solaris? it was stated that together they made solaris exort all its powers while being trapped by them.

Originally posted by leonidas
i guess you have to ask yourself how powerful have we seen superman after small sun dipping sessions, then ask yourself if he was that powerful after a short stay near the sun, how powerful might he be after, what? thousands of years in there...? featless yes, but that is not the same as saying we have no viable way to at least speculate on a general power level. /shrug
Based on feats Abstract level or beyond

Originally posted by leonidas
i guess you have to ask yourself how powerful have we seen superman after small sun dipping sessions, then ask yourself if he was that powerful after a short stay near the sun, how powerful might he be after, what? thousands of years in there...? featless yes, but that is not the same as saying we have no viable way to at least speculate on a general power level. /shrug
Prime was in the heart of the sun for ~15,000 years... And that was after he'd returned from his self-imposed exile with "powers gleaned from the very edge of time and space" (in DC, the edge of time/space = the Source Wall -- so that is evidently where Superman's exotic powers came from.)

As for how much Superman's power can increase from a dip: everyone knows about the OWAW instance, but I think this scene speaks volumes as well:
http://i.imgur.com/3ywegiA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1SQnxvd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WZDcGfK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/v6HhukD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ALDDtlu.jpg

*Superman goes from getting shit-stomped by Darkseid at his base levels, to effortlessly steamrolling Darkseid as though he were a weak feeb... And that was just by moving within close proximity to the sun for a matter of seconds.

I can't even fathom what a formal sun-dip for 15k years would do for him. 😑

Should be Multiverse/god level
Slightly less than Anti Monitor COIE

I believe Morrison's intent was clear: Superman Prime was intended to be the single most powerful being in DC's history... This is still one of my all-time favorite scenes:

"Ten billion thinking suns stand silent for a span. Entire constellations pause in their tracks to acknowledge the return of truth's greatest champion..."

Unfortunately, implied power and lip-service only get you so far on battleboards. srug

Shut up, Galan. You're gonna give JBL an aneurysm--on second thought, keep it up.

Originally posted by Galan007
Prime was in the heart of the sun for [b]~15,000 years... And that was after he'd returned from his self-imposed exile with "powers gleaned from the very edge of time and space" (in DC, the edge of time/space = the Source Wall -- so that is evidently where Superman's exotic powers came from.)

As for how much Superman's power can increase from a dip: everyone knows about the OWAW instance, but I think this scene speaks volumes as well:
http://i.imgur.com/3ywegiA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1SQnxvd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WZDcGfK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/v6HhukD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ALDDtlu.jpg

*Superman goes from getting shit-stomped by Darkseid at his base levels, to effortlessly steamrolling Darkseid as though he were a weak feeb... And that was just by moving within close proximity to the sun for a matter of seconds.

I can't even fathom what a formal sun-dip for 15k years would do for him. 😑 [/B]

how powerful can he really get? what are the limits until he is fully charged? can he be fully charged or can he be charged to an infinity level of power? is it stated somewhere? if not then we can assume that after 1 day of sundip or several hours, he gets to the full power capacity he is able to achieve. after that , sitting in the sun only reserves that amount of power

It's also been hinted that he can develop new abilities(see solar flare, H'el, and Wraith)over time that can make him more powerful overall and not just amplify his standard ones. Fifteen thousand years is a lot of learning while having his powers at basically max levels.

Good point. 👆