Canon Ben Kenobi + Rebels Ahsoka vs ROTS Yoda

Started by Rockydonovang3 pages

Canon Ben Kenobi + Rebels Ahsoka vs ROTS Yoda

Two near equals for the apprentice of the most powerful sith in history face off against the most powerful force user in history up until Sidious himself

Yoda.

Yoda.

This is stupid; Yoda obviously

Yoda blitzes

Yoda

Rebels Ben and Rebels Ahsoka vs Rebels Yoda would have been a thematically cooler thread. uhuh

Ben and Ahsoka aren't near equals for Vader tbh. Yoda wins either regardless.

Originally posted by nfactor1995
Ben and Ahsoka aren't near equals for Vader tbh. Yoda wins either regardless.

1 fought evenly with him

The other challenged him on a ds nexus for almost two minutes

Seem like near equals to me

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
1 fought evenly with him

The other challenged him on a ds nexus for almost two minutes

Seem like near equals to me

Challenging someone doesn't really make you an equal or near equal. Near equal implies that you'd be capable of taking rounds out of 10, maybe even up to 5 (but more like 2-3). Do you honestly think Ahsoka or Ben are beating Vader 3-5 times out of 10 fights? If so, why?

Also wasn't Ben being pretty quickly overwhelmed by Vader in their ANH fight? Sure he was sort of holding his own, but it's not like he had a chance at winning from what I've heard about the supplementary material (i.e. not the movie).

Yoda wins.

And Rebels Ben and Ahsoka aren't Vader's equals, but they sure as hell aren't that much below him, especially Ben.

Originally posted by nfactor1995
Near equal implies that you'd be capable of taking rounds out of 10, maybe even up to 5 (but more like 2-3).

Not really. I'd argue Kenobi's form is created in such a way that he can equal out many combatants he couldn't beat.

Originally posted by Petrus
Yoda wins.

And Rebels Ben and Ahsoka aren't Vader's equals, but they sure as hell aren't that much below him, especially Ben.


hence why i said near equals

Ben Kenobi might be a near equal to Vader.

But I'd say Ahsoka is closer to Maul than Vader given their fights against Inquisitors and against each other.

Pretty sure Canon has Ben = Vader in skill, but Vader edges out due to physical strength.

Lucas seemed to think Ben >> Vader in the Force, though.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Ben Kenobi might be a near equal to Vader.

But I'd say Ahsoka is closer to Maul than Vader given their fights against Inquisitors and against each other.


Nah, that's easily attributed to malachor being a nexus.

The Fact that Ahsoka was able to contend with vader for almost 2 minutes(50 seconds off screen) and only started clearly being at a clear disadvatage for the last 20 seconds or so on a ds nexus makes me think that on even ground she'd be right below vader and on par with ben tbh.

And I'd argue the nexus is pretty significant given it elevated the inquisitors from being stomped by ahsoka to being able to individually able to hold their own against her.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Nah, that's easily attributed to malachor being a nexus.

The DS Nexus which the Story Group can't confirm amplified Maul and Vader in combat.

Even Filoni has made zero mention of any such amp.

So yeah speculation.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang

And I'd argue the nexus is pretty significant given it elevated the inquisitors from being stomped by ahsoka to being able to individually able to hold their own against her.

Actually Ahsoka's stomping the Inquisitors (off Malachor) was pretty similar to the level at which Maul was stomping them (on Malachor), hence further evidence Maul and Ahsoka are approx on par.

Ahsoka solos. She tanked a Force Push from Vader and even landed one on him. Let me just remind you how Vader practically one-shoted Yoda's equal, Sidious, with a Force Wave:

Add to that Ahsoka didn't get incapacitated by Sidious' lightning as per Filoni, whereas Yoda did... And it's clear that Ahsoka solos.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Actually Ahsoka's stomping the Inquisitors (off Malachor) was pretty similar to the level at which Maul was stomping them (on Malachor), hence further evidence Maul and Ahsoka are approx on par.

Stomping seems a very one-sided view on it, the Inquisitors at least held their own as many times as they were defeated.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Stomping seems a very one-sided view on it, the Inquisitors at least held their own as many times as they were defeated.

Against who? Maul or Ahsoka?