Tv punisher vs Nolan Batman

Originally posted by juggerman
Have you seen Batman Begins or the Dark Knight? The Tumbler makes no sense at all in it's climbing abilities. And he has an hour of prep so he can place the Batwing right near him or hovering next to the roof for him to jump into

And thank you for admitting with an hour of prep Batman can win. I'm not a Batfan. I usually give him the loss. But with prep he has the ability to pull out a win WAY more often then without it

Show the tumbler climbing a building, Jumping onto the Batwing which you stated would be next to the roof would require him to leave the battlefield, which means he loses.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Show the tumbler climbing a building, Jumping onto the Batwing which you stated would be next to the roof would require him to leave the battlefield, which means he loses.

The chase scene with the cops in BB had the Tumbler on roofs and in TDK in crashed into the parking garage on an upper level. That thing can move. BAtman could also crane or fly it to the roof if needed.

And leaving the roof for a few seconds wouldn't be a forfeit. BRF only happens when a participant cannot return to the battlefield on their own within a set amount of time. Batman would still be in the fight. He could also (as I stated earlier which you just blew right past) park it right on the roof next to him. Fight starts and he hops in it and bing bang boom. Or hell, he could just start the fray inside the thing. No muss no fuss

Originally posted by juggerman
The chase scene with the cops in BB had the Tumbler on roofs and in TDK in crashed into the parking garage on an upper level. That thing can move. BAtman could also crane or fly it to the roof if needed.

And leaving the roof for a few seconds wouldn't be a forfeit. BRF only happens when a participant cannot return to the battlefield on their own within a set amount of time. Batman would still be in the fight. He could also (as I stated earlier which you just blew right past) park it right on the roof next to him. Fight starts and he hops in it and bing bang boom. Or hell, he could just start the fray inside the thing. No muss no fuss

If the chase scene shows the Tumbler climbing buildings then post the clip, as for flying it that might work, but can the Batwing even lift it? per the forum rules leaving the battlefield on your own power is an auto loss, you only get the chance to come back if you're forcibly removed from the BF.

The Tumbler was shown jumping rooftop to rooftop so getting to this specific rooftop isn't out of the realm. Bruce has access to planes and helicopters too so the Batwing isn't the only option.

Ok I was mistaken about leaving then. But starting in the Batwing or having it parked on the roof already should still be viable options right?

Originally posted by juggerman
The Tumbler was shown jumping rooftop to rooftop so getting to this specific rooftop isn't out of the realm. Bruce has access to planes and helicopters too so the Batwing isn't the only option.

Ok I was mistaken about leaving then. But starting in the Batwing or having it parked on the roof already should still be viable options right?

Ok, so now that you found a way to get the vehicles on the warehouse roof, how is he going to use them in order to beat the Punisher?

More clarification is needed here. How high is this warehouse? Batman could go for knocking Punisher off or collapsing the roof where he's standing and making him fall inside

So Baleman is going to chase the Punisher around the roof in the Tumbler in order to try and knock him off?

As for collapsing the roof, that would make him fall as well, which means he left the BF under his own power. thus he would lose. but I like how Baleman's best chance to win is to destroy the roof.

BTW, to the OP or anyone else. what is considered standard gear for the Punisher?

Edit: Well, I'm out for the night.

Not the entire roof. Just where the Punisher is. Also he would fall in the Batwing

Also I'd like to contest the idea of Balman blowing up the roof being a loss for him. I don't think leaving the battlefield with your opponent would constitute a loss. Like if Superman and Hulk were fighting on a football field and Supes uppercutted Hulk a mile away and flew after him to continue the brawl I would think that would be a loss for him.

Ooooohhhhhh I got another idea!

Baleman uses his hour prep to rig the rooftop with fear toxin. Once the match begins the toxin is released and Castle is doused and starts succumbing to his fears. BatBale then beats him unconscious.

OOOOOORRRRRRR

BruceBale uses his prep time to knock out the lights in the area to create a near pitch black environment. Then he tip toes around unseen and creates mayhem

I'm sleepy

Nah, he just glues nipples to his armour and Frank falls off the roof after laughing too hard.

You win

You seem to have forgotten that we argue in-character, so feel free to post clips of Baleman doing any of the things you've listed so far.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You seem to have forgotten that we argue in-character, so feel free to post clips of Baleman doing any of the things you've listed so far.

Originally posted by riv6672
This one's actually sillier than the same thread in the Versus forum. 😂

Give Baleman fans a little rope and they'll hang themselves.

Its only fair.
Baleman would too, trying to ise a rope.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You seem to have forgotten that we argue in-character, so feel free to post clips of Baleman doing any of the things you've listed so far.

He has used fear gas in his fight with Bane. He also blacked out the lights in that same fight. Both are in character

Originally posted by Silent Master
Give Baleman fans a little rope and they'll hang themselves.

Not a Baleman fan. He would lose a straight up one on one random encounter. With prep he can win.

You're claiming that he'll rig the entire roof with fear gas, using something in the middle of a fight is a lot different than using prep to rig an entire battlefield.

You might as well say that someone like Deadshot uses his prep to shoot Batman in the head.

He used it in the way he did due to the circumstances. He was lured into a trap and had to wing it. With an hour of prep time it's completely reasonable for him to use things that are normally at his disposal.

Deadshot has used prep to kill in SS

If it's in character for him to do so with prep, post clips where he uses prep to rig a battlefield.

You're misunderstanding my point, it would be like someone making a Deadshot vs Batman thread and you saying that Deadshot shoots Batman before the fight starts.

Edit: Double checked the rules

Prep time
Neither side receives any notable prep time before the starting bell unless the thread starter specifies it. Neither side may take any offensive or defensive actions before the starting bell. Planning is allowed and powers that are automatic or 'always on' can be up, but actions such as setting up forcefields, taking flight, or consciously activating powers is not. For example, Batman cannot shove together an 'anti-Avengers ray' before the fight.

So, rigging the BF is out.