Tv punisher vs Nolan Batman

Originally posted by Silent Master
If it's in character for him to do so with prep, post clips where he uses prep to rig a battlefield.

You're misunderstanding my point, it would be like someone making a Deadshot vs Batman thread and you saying that Deadshot shoots Batman before the fight starts.

Edit: Double checked the rules

So, rigging the BF is out.

That's not how it works. Sometimes we don't see characters using prep so we have to go with what they have access to and could do. We've never seen Wonder Woman prep for a fight but if she were going against Kal we could assume she could borrow Kryptonite from Bruce.

And I think it would be well within Deadshot's ability to set up those things he used to ricochet bullets beforehand. Not that he attacks the opponent early. I'm not saying Bruce attack early either

I'd like a ruling on that if you don't mind. I don't see him setting things up to use AFTER the fight has begun as any more offensive or defensive than bringing specific weapons and equipment to use. Maybe I'm looking at it wrong though but idk

Also Wayne wouldn't need to set anything up to turn the lights out like he did against Bane. He just did that on the fly. So turning the lights out and using fear gas is an option.

It's in the rules on the comic vs forum, which we generally abide by. but if you want to ask Imp if you can override the site's rules, go ahead.

It's not overriding anything. He isn't using anything before the fight and he isn't protecting himself either. He's just bringing tools to use after the bell rings

If he is setting up traps, then yes, he is using things before the fight. now if you want Baleman can bring the stuff with him and then try and install them after the fight starts.

Question: If this were Deadshot or another shooter with prep, would placing guns around the field in hopes of using them at some point be off limits too? Or is this just because these are "traps"?

If you don't feel that setting traps count as an offensive/defensive action, feel free to ask a mod. but we both know what their answer would be.

So no answer to placing guns around? Ok then well we've already established Frank has no counter for Bat's vehicles. Batman can cut the lights off with a neat gadget on his belt. Batman has access to fear gas. He can win

Start a Deadshot thread and I might post in it.

What is the Punisher doing while Baleman is getting in and starting his vehicles?

Mods will probably tell you traps are "field prep", and generally not part of standard prep rules.

Does anyone know what is considered standard gear for this version of the Punisher?

Hard to say. Frank is actually a pretty solid prepper himself, and packs whatever is most useful for any given job. In some instances he would have a bunch of explosives, sniper rifle and a few other toys. In another he'd have a sidearm, shotgun etc. And in yet another situation, he would do things like hide a scalpel inside his friggin' forearm (like literally under the skin) to sneak it into a certain location. But he almost always has a few guns on him. The kind of guns just vary depending on the mission parameters.

Okay, so basically the consensus is that the only way Batman has a chance of winning is if he starts the fight already inside of a heavily armed and armoured vehicle, and fights completely out of character?

Yeah, I think he could win with one-sided prep and access to everything at his disposal. Random encounter and Punisher would literally just shoot him in the mouth.

If Batman has 1 hour of prep then does that mean he has the opportunity to sneak up on Frank? Or he must do his prep in front of Frank (which defeats the purpose)? Or he does the prep away from Frank and then starts the fight in front of Frank?

Batman curbstomps.

Originally posted by h1a8
If Batman has 1 hour of prep then does that mean he has the opportunity to sneak up on Frank? Or he must do his prep in front of Frank (which defeats the purpose)? Or he does the prep away from Frank and then starts the fight in front of Frank?

You have been on this board long enough to know, so why are you asking such retarded questions?

Originally posted by Silent Master
You have been on this board long enough to know, so why are you asking such retarded questions?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Start a Deadshot thread and I might post in it.

What is the Punisher doing while Baleman is getting in and starting his vehicles?

Shooting most likely. Dunno what that'll do since it took a rocket to disable the Tumbler. Also you're ignore the darkness and fear gas. Frank has no defense against these

Originally posted by Silent Master
Okay, so basically the consensus is that the only way Batman has a chance of winning is if he starts the fight already inside of a heavily armed and armoured vehicle, and fights completely out of character?

Nope. He doesn't need the vehicles but they would surely up his chances

What good does turning off the lights do when they're outside and if Bats goes for the gas, the Punisher can just shoot him.

Face it, without Baleman starting inside an armored vehicle, this is Frank's fight to lose.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What good does turning off the lights do when they're outside and if Bats goes for the gas, the Punisher can just shoot him.

Face it, without Baleman starting inside an armored vehicle, this is Frank's fight to lose.

It gives Batman the opportunity to hide and sneak up on Frank. Frank can't shoot what he can't see. And he can toss the toxin from a distance to avoid getting shot. All of that is in character for him. Will it work 100% of the time? Probably not. Can he win? Hell yes