Who wins a boxing match between Superman and Wonder Woman

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because her speed advantage is due to her acting without consciously thinking.

Does she know how to box? Of course
But she's spent literal lifetimes training in how to actually fight, rather than how to adhere to rules in a sport.

She's a warrior born, not a sports fighter. There are more illegal ways than legal to deal with a punch.

Kicks aren't allowed. Throws aren't allowed. Joint manipulations aren't allowed. Headbutts, elbows, knees aren't allowed. Grappling is reduced to clinches, and even then, they get broken up.

The instant she starts thinking about her moves, she loses her speed advantage, as per McDuffie, which is the scan JBL clings to.

Superman's beholden to the rules just like she is. No flight or anything else. I could throw out how his punches breaking the gloves or even loosening them stops the fight. This can get stupid really fast

Prove what, that her speed comes from muscle memory?

'Certainly, you have an advantage in raw speed, but you have to think before you respond. I'm a trained warrior. My reactions are in my muscle memory'.

Note she didn't say travel speed, but in raw speed. But he has to think. She just reacts, like a trained warrior would. THAT'S where her edge lies.

IOW, when she has to stop and think like Clark does, he has the raw speed advantage.

So in a boxing match? She would respond the way she's been taught, and been trained, for lifetimes' worth of fighting.

No, that she is unable to think during combat to render a boxing match impossible

Originally posted by psycho gundam
No, that she is unable to think during combat

Never said she can't think in combat.

I'm saying her speed advantage over Clark stems from her using her muscle memory, to compensate for his raw speed advantage.

Once she stops relying on muscle memory, and starts thinking before she responds? Clark has the raw speed over her.

Yeah, that's true. I just don't think she's an automaton that is a slave to her training. There is definitely an unconscious thought that prevents a boxing match to devolve into a street fight and both of them would understand the sport ahead of time

Yeah.....I just think that her lifetimes' worth of actual fighting (as opposed to sport boxing) would usually be the main instinct.

To then pare it all down, and be reduced to just boxing, like I said, wouldn't be impossible...she can definitely box. But she would have to be consciously holding herself back, whereas Clark had the speed to take advantage. Which is why I was saying originally, IF we use that scene to argue that she will be faster than him....the OP has actually made pretty sure that THAT scene is the one scene you cannot use to argue for WW, lol.

Hmmm Clark has better durability and strength, Diana better combat speed and skills.

I think boxing is more in Clarks favour, so he wins.
But a less restricted ringfight would she win, cause it would favour speed and especially skill more.

Originally posted by gunchar
Hmmm Clark has better durability and strength, Diana better combat speed and skills.

I think boxing is more in Clarks favour, so he wins.
But a less restricted ringfight would she win, cause it would favour speed and especially skill more.

😆 The only advantage she has is skill. People have to cling to certain fights and IGNORE CONTEXT just to justify even using those, while ignoring where he shows blatant superiority to her while not even taking her seriously.

Originally posted by h1a8
WW wins. She's more skilled/experienced and has equal or greater reflexes and hand speed. That's all that matters.

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Originally posted by gunchar
Hmmm Clark has better durability and strength, Diana better combat speed and skills.

I think boxing is more in Clarks favour, so he wins.
But a less restricted ringfight would she win, cause it would favour speed and especially skill more.