Manchester terror attack- 19 dead, 50 wounded

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nobody's mentioned that period.

And it's not that they also fall victim. They are the primary victims.

Well I'm sorry it's aching your ears. But it's actually costing other people their lives and loved ones. And it's causing abuse to a lot of Muslims in the Western world as well.

But I guess it's more important that you're tired of "hearing" it.

They're like all Muslims there. So your question makes no sense.

Maybe the Muslim Community wouldn't have this problem if it would Stand up and Clean its Own House. But lets be honest....That aint gonna happen!!!

Originally posted by Lestov16
Maybe we could sue the Republican president who just gave $110 billion to the world's most powerful radical Islamic theocracy.

Say....Didn't that guy who was the PREVIOUS President of the U.S happen to give SHIT TONS of Money to a certain country rather known for its ties to TERRORIST ACTIVITY!?

Should we wait to so Trump until after we sue that guy? Oh gee...what was his name again?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Imagine two brothers: one is a good citizen and the other is a criminal.

In order to deter the Bad Brother from committing additional crimes, you threaten both brothers that if he does, you will kill their parents.

The Good Brother has no control over the actions of the Bad Brother, yet he will be punished just the same when the Bad Brother inevitably breaks the law.

The Good Brother is now motivated to stop you by any means necessary to protect his parents, because it is only a matter of time before his brother commits another crime.

He may even decide to join forces with his brother to improve his odds of success.

This is not a case of mutually-assured destruction.

You are making an existential threat, and the Good Brother has everything to lose if he does not act, and nothing to lose if he does.

You are radicalizing people who are otherwise not inclined toward terrorism, and increasing the violent acts you are trying to deter.

It is the stupidest thing someone could suggest.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Maybe the Muslim Community wouldn't have this problem if it would Stand up and Clean its Own House. But lets be honest....That aint gonna happen!!!

Say....Didn't that guy who was the PREVIOUS President of the U.S happen to give SHIT TONS of Money to a certain country rather known for its ties to TERRORIST ACTIVITY!?

Should we wait to so Trump until after we sue that guy? Oh gee...what was his name again? [/B]

So you are either saying Trump was wrong and Obama was right to give money to Iran, or you're accusing Trump of hypocrisy. Which is it?

More like I am accusing the Trump Haters themselves of said Hypocrisy.

Originally posted by Robtard
They'll use any tragedy to push their personal agenda, they're sad and pathetic.

It's a sad world Rob.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
A mind boggling stupid suggestion yeah, seems this thread is full of them.

The fact that Islamic terrorist groups like ISIS want the West to kill innocent Muslims as it feeds into their 'us vs them' agenda should have cued him that it's a stupid (and murderous) plan.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]More like I am accusing the Trump Haters themselves of said Hypocrisy. [/B]

So Trump detractors are hypocrites for pointing out how Trump is a hypocrite? If he's going to use Obama's tactics, why did he run a campaign by criticizing him?

Originally posted by Robtard
as it feeds into their 'us vs them' agenda

👆

"Us" vs "Them" is pretty much the basis of all wars and terrorist attacks live ever.

It's so obvious yet amazing how many people don't see it.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Maybe the Muslim Community wouldn't have this problem if it would Stand up and Clean its Own House. But lets be honest....That aint gonna happen!!!

Hey geez here's a new way of thinking:

How about including the "Muslim community" as part of your "Human community".

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Hey geez here's a new way of thinking:

How about including the "Muslim community" as part of your "Human community".

Not that they'd ever know, as Fox, Brietbart and The Blaze would never cover it, but Muslim groups often do gather to protest Islamic terrorism.

eg the day after this attack, Muslims gathered in the UK to openly protest this attack and condemn it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not that they'd ever know, as Fox, Brietbart and The Blaze would never cover it, but Muslim groups often do gather to protest Islamic terrorism.

eg the day after this attack, Muslims gathered in the UK to openly protest this attack and condemn it.

Yep:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/vigil-manchester-muslims-st-anns-13086343

And they help the police here to thwart potential terrorist attacks. It's where they get a lot of their intelligence.

But I guess it's boring to think of it that way and more fun to hate.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nobody's mentioned that period.

And it's not that they also fall victim. They are the primary victims.

Well I'm sorry it's aching your ears. But it's actually costing other people their lives and loved ones. And it's causing abuse to a lot of Muslims in the Western world as well.

But I guess it's more important that you're tired of "hearing" it.

They're like all Muslims there. So your question makes no sense.

They are the primary victims, okay, and? You can make a thread about it if you want. Don't blame me for what the media does or does not focus on.

I said people are tired of hearing about terrorist attacks every week because they are sick of seeing horrible stuff. I didn't mean they are tried in the sense that they can't be bothered to care abut more than one thing. As I said, you can't blame others for what gets focused on. I'm not suggesting someone would see the story and go "oh I've had my fill of terror attacks I can't care".

I was explaining why people are speaking out against stuff like this in the way they are.

People will be pathetic and try to paint it as if the majority paint all muslims this way, but they do not. So don't fall for that kind of tactic. Most don't say "all muslims are guilty of this!".

Originally posted by Lestov16
So Trump detractors are hypocrites for pointing out how Trump is a hypocrite? If he's going to use Obama's tactics, why did he run a campaign by criticizing him?

Originally posted by Lestov16
So Trump detractors are hypocrites for pointing out how Trump is a hypocrite? If he's going to use Obama's tactics, why did he run a campaign by criticizing him?

This a good point, they're only hypocrites if they didn't cry as loudly over Obama doing it as they did over Trump doing it. Which I'm sure most will claim they were totally just as upset over both.

Originally posted by Surtur
They are the primary victims, okay, and? You can make a thread about it if you want. Don't blame me for what the media does or does not focus on.

I said people are tired of hearing about terrorist attacks every week because they are sick of seeing horrible stuff. I didn't mean they are tried in the sense that they can't be bothered to care abut more than one thing. As I said, you can't blame others for what gets focused on. I'm not suggesting someone would see the story and go "oh I've had my fill of terror attacks I can't care".

I was explaining why people are speaking out against stuff like this in the way they are.

People will be pathetic and try to paint it as if the majority paint all muslims this way, but they do not. So don't fall for that kind of tactic. Most don't say "all muslims are guilty of this!".

LoL, what a cowardly post. DT showed you up and you spin.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, what a cowardly post. DT showed you up and you spin.

So bringing up different attacks done to muslims and saying they are the primary victims in a thread about the attack on Manchester is "showing someone up" now? We're setting the bar awfully low then.

What is there to spin? Do we now just discuss how Muslims are the primary victims of terror? Where exactly did you want the discussion to go?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Nice to see people not using a tragedy like this to gloat over some political agenda. Truly.

Seriously some you need the shit kicked out of you for the low morals you show.

i think that would fall under 'ethics' but agreed 👆

Yeah cause I bet even Isis (who took credit for the attack,
and yes it was an ATTACK) didn't celebrate it by firing a few guns in the air.

Cause they are sensitive in that way.

People should not gloat, nor should they ignore the reality of the situation. Both can be harmful.

Originally posted by Surtur
So bringing up different attacks done to muslims and saying they are the primary victims in a thread about the attack on Manchester is "showing someone up" now? We're setting the bar awfully low then.

It's the same group/murderous ideology killing Muslims in droves, and you don't think that's relevant?

Like I pointed out, I'm the one here whose actually from Manchester, so for me to be more devastated by that attack then an attack on children in Syria is natural.

For some of you guys though it's like "oh I'm fed up of hearing and seeing attacks on the White Westerners by these "Muslims".. Something's gotta be done about these "Muslims".. How about we blow up Mecca... That would make us so much better than terrorists because you know.. we're white, and they're not and blah blah"

As for the media not reporting that stuff, maybe just do a bit of research and get your facts right before you start discussing the "Muslim problem."