Originally posted by Robtard
I feel as if your definition of "solution" is something you've made up in your head. But sure, I covered that in my first post to you above on the matter. What's the solution after we've done that/your labeling?
I never said I had the answer to stopping terrorism. That doesn't mean we do not call it what it is. How is this hard to get?
I said "sad and pathetic" in here in a post to someone else and now you're saying I'm "sad and pathetic". Your cleverness has been noted.
And I've used the words "sad and pathetic" in the past as well. What is your point?
^ British media has historically Always used the term "Islamic" terrorists. This is actually a new thing where they've tried to avoid that term, and I'd say that's the media actually evolving for once.
I mean for 1, it's not as if we don't know the faith these terrorists claim to belong to. We all know it, doesn't mean it should be shoved down everyone's throats every day, because what possible benefit would that do? It would be especially thoughtless when trying to decrease hate crime and abuse towards the general Muslim population.
I mean sure if there's a situation where you need to differentiate between a Christian based terrorist group, a Jewish one, a Hindu one and an Islamic one, then the term might prove useful, but that's not the case.
We also shouldn't give the terrorists the credit they want - they want to be associated as the true representation of an Islamic caliphate. But why call them what makes them happy, when you can really p*** off this particular group by calling them Daesh:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/what-daesh-mean-isis-threatens-6841468
Oh and for those morons who claim the "Muslim community" does nothing to stop terrorism, they apparently warned the police about the manchester bomber 5 years ago:
So someone in the police needs to answer why he wasn't at least being surveillanced properly.
And there are plenty of examples of Muslims aiding in preventing terrorist attacks. With many plots actually being thwarted due to their aid:
https://shadowproof.com/2017/01/27/american-muslims-stop-terror-attacks-nsa/
I never said nobody ever at all calls this Islamic terrorism, just not as much. We had some blaming this on misogyny. Oh and looky here, another attack:
Gunmen kill 26 in attack on Christians in Egypt
Get ready for the standard protocol if this is connected to Islam:
#NotAllMuslims
Followed by a declared day of mourning. Followed by pictures of people laying flowers at a memorial.
Originally posted by SurturGet ready for the standard protocol if this is connected to Islam:
#NotAllMuslims
So basically you just wanna blame this on Muslims.
Cool bro. I'll make sure to blame Christians for all future murders and rape attacks done by white people.
I mean seriously It's like you've not listened to a thing I've said. It's just gone in through one ear and out the other.
It's also pretty sad the way you're almost boasting another attack happened because it helps your argument. And how quickly you find out about attacks on Christians but seem to know nothing and be completely ignorant about attacks on Muslims which happen far more often.
Originally posted by Surtur
I never said nobody ever at all calls this Islamic terrorism, just not as much. We had some blaming this on misogyny. Oh and looky here, another attack:Gunmen kill 26 in attack on Christians in Egypt
Get ready for the standard protocol if this is connected to Islam:
#NotAllMuslims
Followed by a declared day of mourning. Followed by pictures of people laying flowers at a memorial.
let's just skip '#NotAllMuslims' and call you're malignant toxic horseshit what it is.
#BlameAllMuslims
Originally posted by Darth Thor
So basically you just wanna blame this on Muslims.Cool bro. I'll make sure to blame Christians for all future murders and rape attacks done by white people.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you didn't purposely misunderstand. I wasn't saying blame this on all Muslims. I was talking about the attitude some have after attacks like this. That is what they go to, "Not All Muslims" and why? It's the sad and pathetic tactic used by some in order to try to imply anyone who now comes out and criticizes Islam is saying all Muslims do this.
It's the shitty argument some use.
I also found your comment about blaming Christians funny, as if sweeping generalizations aren't used on them or whites? Hell just setting aside the religious aspect, after Trump I had plenty of whining and crying and blaming white people, white women, etc.
Those are the same kind of liberals who will spew out this "Not All Muslims" stuff.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
let's just skip '#NotAllMuslims' and call you're malignant toxic horseshit what it is.
#BlameAllMuslims
If you're ignorant and unintelligent you can do that. I wasn't blaming all Muslims, I was discussing the reactions we will see to this. Hell, it's the reaction we see to every attack connected to Islam. People talk about how not all muslims do this(even though most do not think literally all muslims do this).
Then cue some feel good words about how they will "endure" and all this stuff. Then cue a day of mourning. Then cue the local flower shops getting a boost in sales.
Originally posted by Surtur
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you didn't purposely misunderstand. I wasn't saying blame this on all Muslims. I was talking about the attitude some have after attacks like this. That is what they go to, "Not All Muslims" and why? It's the sad and pathetic tactic used by some in order to try to imply anyone who now comes out and criticizes Islam is saying all Muslims do this.
It's to stop Abuse against Muslims. What exactly is your problem with that?
And it's frankly retarded to blame "Islam" every time a Muslim commits a terrorist attack.
If you have an issue with the religion itself, bring it up on a separate occasion. Stop taking advantage of supposed Muslims who are clearly criminals to attack the entire faith.
Originally posted by Surtur
It's the shitty argument some use.I also found your comment about blaming Christians funny, as if sweeping generalizations aren't used on them or whites? Hell just setting aside the religious aspect, after Trump I had plenty of whining and crying and blaming white people, white women, etc.
So we going to offset one ridiculous generalization with another? Good one.
Originally posted by Surtur
Those are the same kind of liberals who will spew out this "Not All Muslims" stuff.
Again, why would you want to encourage abuse against Muslims?
Originally posted by Darth Thor
It's to stop Abuse against Muslims. What exactly is your problem with that.And it's frankly retarded to blame "Islam" every time a Muslim commits a terrorist attack.
If you have an issue with the religion itself, bring it up on a separate occasion. Stop taking advantage of supposed Muslims who are clearly criminals to attack the entire faith.
My problem is that it implies a majority of people feel it's all Muslims doing this. That isn't the case, it's a sad tactic used by some.
So we going to offset one ridiculous generalization with another? Good one.
It's hard to take a hypocrite seriously, especially when they pick and choose when it's okay to make sweeping generalizations.
Again, why would you want to encourage abuse against Muslims?
But I never encouraged anyone to abuse Muslims. I take issue with the hypocrisy of people who generalize and then whine about generalizations. If you don't see the problem with picking and choosing when it's okay to generalize and when it's not based on feelings then what point is there to discuss this?
Hypocrisy can be a poison that can seep into anything. If ever there was a behavior that cultivates an atmosphere of stuff going in one ear and right out the other? It's shit like that. Not that you specifically did it, but yeah....there is a problem when imbeciles squawk and squawk about generalizing Muslims, but waste no time in generalizing other groups.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
It's to stop Abuse against Muslims. What exactly is your problem with that?And it's frankly retarded to blame "Islam" every time a Muslim commits a terrorist attack.
If you have an issue with the religion itself, bring it up on a separate occasion. Stop taking advantage of supposed Muslims who are clearly criminals to attack the entire faith.
The faith is what's responsible for creating these dangerous ideologies...
Do you think it's a coincidence that we don't see Catholics, Hindus, Taoists, etc committing suicide bombings to kill non believers and get virgins in paradise? It's not a coincidence. It's because the holy books of other religions don't command such behavior.
Why does this simple concept elude people?
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
The faith is what's responsible for creating these dangerous ideologies...Do you think it's a coincidence that we don't see Catholics, Hindus, Taoists, etc committing suicide bombings to kill non believers and get virgins in paradise? It's not a coincidence. It's because the holy books of other religions don't command such behavior.
I mean we do have stuff like Christians killing doctors who perform abortions and shit like that, so it does happen.
The problem is people don't exactly shy away from that. If a Christian came and exploded some motherf*ckers shouting "Praise Jesus!!" you can rest assured the religious aspects would be mentioned over and over again and not referred to vaguely.
All religions have extremists, but not all religions are equally abhorrent. The Buddhists don't seem to be flying planes into buildings. The Jainists aren't slaughtering people for drawing pictures of people they revere.
Think of any other aspects where the media try to avoid the truth about the nature of an attack. If there was a crime committed due to racism and the MSM either was vague about this or didn't mention it at all people would lose their minds. But when it comes to religion there is a pass, but really the pass isn't even something all religions have access to. Which makes it all the more bizarre. We're not even a Muslim majority nation so why we bend over backwards for them is beyond me. Rolling Stone is writing articles about this more or less talking about misogyny without a single mention of Islam.
Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure I asked you for the answer in stopping terrorism, so yeah.
So then you were indeed asking me for the solution to people not mentioning Islam. But you said that my response of "mention Islam" was apparently not sufficient. I did not mean blame all Muslims, I simply meant don't act like it has zero to do with this.
Isn't that a fair request to make of the media?