Silver Surfer vs Aquaman · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

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Originally posted by staxamillion
a weakened hulk still looked pretty strong in that arc to me, I think that SS could no sell most anything AM could throw.

There's a difference between no selling and not being hurt enough to put someone down.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by staxamillion
maybe so but I don't see AM putting out the damage to take out SS either.

Surfer has a glass jaw you know. Arthur was able to hit blood from Superman. Superman is arguably more durable to blunt attacks than Surfer.

Arthur is a much better fighter. The hit ratio would probably be something like 4:1.

staxamillion Sir Snikts-A-Lot

I think glass jaw is a bit much but I do step back from no selling AM to not doing enough damage. there has been plenty of threads to show at least he can take a hit.

TheHulkster Senior Member

Originally posted by staxamillion
I think glass jaw is a bit much but I do step back from no selling AM to not doing enough damage. there has been plenty of threads to show at least he can take a hit.

Glass Jaw is quite a bit much:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/41224/3613767-surfer+1.jpg

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by h1a8
Surfer had to one time amp just to match and exceed Thing. That means he is normally around Thing level in strength.

Originally posted by h1a8
Then he should no sell Namor too.
Surfer should be a little above Thing on average in physical strength.
He had to amp just to beat Thing.

He had to amp to match Thing way back when he was weakened back in the era of his first series. And even back then he wasn't limited to Thing's strength level via amping, he surpassed Thing's strength. Since then he's stopped Rhino's charge with one hand and knocked Lunatik from the tropical region of a planet all the way to the ice cap.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Glass Jaw is quite a bit much:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/41224/3613767-surfer+1.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1997_125_15.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1997_125_16.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1997_125_17.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1997_125_18.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1997_125_19.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1997_125_20.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1997_125_21.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1997_125_26.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1997_125_27.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_1997_125_28.jpg

Don't forget the time when a bloodlusted Wonderman pounded away on him for a bit trying to kill him when Surfer was already extremely weakened, failed, and then Surfer came back moments later to absolutely trash the guy.

StiltmanFTW CBvF

I prefer the time when pissed off Daredevil made Norrin choke on his billy club.

TheHulkster Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
Don't forget the time when a bloodlusted Wonderman pounded away on him for a bit trying to kill him when Surfer was already extremely weakened, failed, and then Surfer came back moments later to absolutely trash the guy.

Yep.

http://imgur.com/a/tSmJH#0

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Originally posted by Damborgson
Hulk at the very beginning of Planet Hulk, Was really weakened. He wasn't healing properly and Korg actually got the better of him.

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He was getting stronger as it went along, but even before the fight with Surfer, he was having problems and was easily damaged with spears and such. They were both really weakened [and since they're completely different characters, with different powersets, you can't say they were equally weakened, one way or another. I'd go towards Surfer being more weakened, but it's not provable only conjecture], so there's not much that can be drawn from all of it.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by darthgoober
Don't forget the time when a bloodlusted Wonderman pounded away on him for a bit trying to kill him when Surfer was already extremely weakened, failed, and then Surfer came back moments later to absolutely trash the guy.

That just shows how much of a joke Simon is.

ermm

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

In the comic, it seems Surfer came first:

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Always seemed to me that Surfer arrived before Hulk, yes.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I prefer the time when pissed off Daredevil made Norrin choke on his billy club.

Hey DD's taken down Ultron with a simple tree branch... just imagine the force he can exert with the billy club he's practiced at for years now 😉

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
That just shows how much of a joke Simon is.
ermm

Simon's not one of Marvel's big dogs, but he's not exactly a joke in the strength department...

http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq300/JoeJimBoy/Avengers307_10a.jpg
http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq300/JoeJimBoy/Avengers307_09b.jpg

Plus the whole 50,000 ton press thing(which I can't seem to find a working scan for).

And during the Infinity Crusade he was going through an ordeal where his powers were tied to his emotional state and was stonger than he was during his classic days while he was enraged.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

H1N1 is only going to ignore that just to double down on an out-of-context scan he saw at some point that defines everything about the character without nuance forevermore

tkitna Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
[B]Simon's not one of Marvel's big dogs, but he's not exactly a joke in the strength department...

Yeah, the problem with Simon is he written all over the place. He's not an A list character so they take some liberties with him.

He can go from losing to people like Mr. Fixit, and such to casually choking out the Red Hulk.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by tkitna
Yeah, the problem with Simon is he written all over the place. He's not an A list character so they take some liberties with him.
He can go from losing to people like Mr. Fixit, and such to casually choking out the Red Hulk.

Yeah but the flashback fight was to an era before WM got upgraded during his solo series. Him stalemating Professor Hulk and choking out Red Hulk both happened after that upgrade.

And even Fixit was nothing to sneer at depending on the story. I mean he is the one who destroyed that asteroid that was bigger than Earth.

TheHulkster Senior Member

Hmmm. This seems to imply that Hulk comes first:

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Always seemed to me that Surfer arrived before Hulk, yes.

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The first time Surfer is presented, it's pretty clear that he's been there a while and has already fought in gladiator battles before. But this clears it up.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by darthgoober
Simon's not one of Marvel's big dogs, but he's not exactly a joke in the strength department...
http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq300/JoeJimBoy/Avengers307_10a.jpg
http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq300/JoeJimBoy/Avengers307_09b.jpg
Plus the whole 50,000 ton press thing(which I can't seem to find a working scan for).
And during the Infinity Crusade he was going through an ordeal where his powers were tied to his emotional state and was stonger than he was during his classic days while he was enraged.

Eh, he has his few golden moments but in Infinity series he was a goddamn joke who failed to ko Wolverine after repeated attacks when even John Walker koed Wolverine in two attacks, lost to Adam Warlock, oneshotted by Maxam and as you showed failed to ko a weakened Surfer.

You're acting like it's some kind of big feat for Surfer.

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