Wonder Woman vs. Superman
DCEU versions, both at their strongest.
Round 1: Pure h2h combat. Diana has no armor, Superman has no flight. Let's take away Superman's cape too for good measure.
Round 2: Both in full costume/armor. Diana gets all her gear, Superman can use all his powers.
Combatants know nothing about each other but are fighting to the death.
1. Superman 10/10.
He's physically vastly superior, and has already fought trained fighters and beat them [Zod and Faora]. She can't even hurt him, when Zod was unable to do any visible damage.
2. Superman 7/10.
She'll be able to get some wins with the sword, assuming she tags him enough times. Most of the time he'll just overwhelm her.
I haven't seen the movie yet and probably wont until tomorrow(busy working) however from everything I've heard on this board and others it seems that some people are letting the fact the DC finally made a good movie color their opinion on how impressive these feats really are.
That said, from reading between the lines of people's posts(both sides) WW is probably going to be around Thor/Hulk level, possibly slightly above, which is fine with me as WW is one of my favorite characters.
Originally posted by FrothByteShe has super speed, yes. But even in her all-out speedblitz at the end on the soldiers, they were still perceiving her, and it was the inferior version to what Faora was doing.
^ But during the final fight in Wonder Woman, she seemed to display some great degree of super speed. Seemingly teleporting almost.
Originally posted by FrothByteWe could clearly see Diana [all out at that point] moving against the soldiers, and they were reacting to her. She was using super-speed, but it's not even close to this:
^ When the kryptonians move in super speed, you still see them blur. You couldn't even see a blur with Wonder Woman. She's there one moment and gone the next. Almost teleporting. I'm not saying she's faster, just that you can't assume that Faora is faster either.
I also notice you're stuck on speed. I take it you're in agreement Superman is far stronger and durable, no? Or do you want to compare there, too?
Wonder Woman seemed pretty close in speed to the Kryptonians (on foot at least), from what I saw. But Kryptonians had better flight speed, whereas Wonder Woman had better pure reflex feats IMO, like the countless bullets she casually deflected at various points in the film. Superman is definitely physically stronger and more durable though.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
@Vault are you talking about Diana casually deflecting (3 or 4?) handguns shooting at pointblank? That was insane.
Yeah, the Germans jumping her and Steve Trevor in the alley is a great example, because they were literally right on them, but she also did quite a bit of bullet deflecting on the battlefield and towards the end of the film. Her reflexes/reaction speed is pretty ridiculous.
Originally posted by Philosophia
I also notice you're stuck on speed. I take it you're in agreement Superman is far stronger and durable, no? Or do you want to compare there, too?
That's because I don't deny that Superman is stronger and more durable. But I do think Diana has the advantage in combat speed and fighting skill, which is why I believe this makes a good match.
Round 1: Pure h2h combat. Diana has no armor, Superman has no flight. Let's take away Superman's cape too for good measure.
Round 2: Both in full costume/armor. Diana gets all her gear, Superman can use all his powers.
Kal is no slouch in h2h. He has bullet speed reflexes. He ended up besting 3 krypotnians. Can match doomsdays strength. Fought the WE weakened, and survived a nuke just to name some of his feats.
So his speed, strength and durability are no question.
He will end up taking hits due to the nature of the fight and how cis/pis has always shown but in the end I see a neck snap or pure KO, or straight up submission.
WW will land hits but they are not kryptonian level / doomsday level strength hits that he already took and didn't do anything to him.
The only real way to stop him is with Kryptonite. As its his only weakness shown up to this point.
Her skin is subject to being damaged, his heat vision can cut her. All he would have to do is get his hands on her long enough to snap her neck, or push his heat vision through her head, or just punch a hole through her.
While WW is very bad ass she lacks the durability and strength that Superman has in spades.
I see the fight lasting for less time then the Ares fight as he was trying to get her to join him.
Originally posted by Silent MasterIf she's only around Thor or Hulk level Superman would effortlessly win. 👆
I haven't seen the movie yet and probably wont until tomorrow(busy working) however from everything I've heard on this board and others it seems that some people are letting the fact the DC finally made a good movie color their opinion on how impressive these feats really are.That said, from reading between the lines of people's posts(both sides) WW is probably going to be around Thor/Hulk level, possibly slightly above, which is fine with me as WW is one of my favorite characters.
