Originally posted by Surtur
Lol but wait, what was said is that HALF the people who support Trump are deplorable. The other half are apparently too stupid to see Trump will screw them over.
I personally didn't agree with her saying that, not that it cost her any significant amount of votes cos the people offended by her not pc words would never have voted for her anyways, but Trump is literally proving that many of his supporters are indeed too stupid too see Trump's assraping them. As pointed out, Trumpcare as proposed by Trump, luckily for them the Senate is doing some changes because senators like being reelected and we will see what's left at the end.
Originally posted by Robtard
I personally didn't agree with her saying that, not that it cost her any significant amount of votes cos the people offended by her not pc words would never have voted for her anyways, but Trump is literally proving that many of his supporters are indeed too stupid too see Trump's assraping them. As pointed out, Trumpcare as proposed by Trump, luckily for them the Senate is doing some changes because senators like being reelected and we will see what's left at the end.
I see no more ignorance from Trumpers than I do from the other side.
Originally posted by Surtur
If I had no coverage before ObamaCare and then I did once it came along...the shit you just said would be true.
You said you were on County Care before Obamacare, which is an absolute no cost to the person health provider in your area for people on government assistance.
Really, you need to keep your story straight, you're either on assistance because you can't work (ie committing fraud cos you can work) or you can work and County Care wouldn't apply to you.
Originally posted by Robtard
I personally didn't agree with her saying that, not that it cost her any significant amount of votes cos the people offended by her not pc words would never have voted for her anyways, but Trump is literally proving that many of his supporters are indeed too stupid too see Trump's assraping them. As pointed out, Trumpcare as proposed by Trump, luckily for them the Senate is doing some changes because senators like being reelected and we will see what's left at the end.
The stuff leaking about the senate bill makes it sound not too bad. Basically sounds like Obamacare but with some cuts to Medicaid over the next 10 years. House republicans are apparently mad that the senate bill doesn't include the rights for states to **** over sick people like they'd prefer. They've still got plenty of time to make the bill worse, though.
Originally posted by Surtur
It sure sounds like she is saying they are too ignorant to see they too will be affected by the shit Trump plans to do.That was a ncie attempt at spin.
It is not spin, it is all there in black and white. I even conveniently posted the direct words for you.
Nowhere in that quote does she allude that "they are too ignorant to see they too will be affected by the shit Trump plans to do."
In fact, she says directly that they support him, precisely because they want to believe he will make good on his promises.
If it "sounds" differently to you, it is because you are reading into it, things that are not there.
Perhaps, your own defensiveness about being accused of some form of bigotry.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
It is not spin, it is all there in black and white. I even conveniently posted the direct words for you.Nowhere in that quote does she allude that "they are too ignorant to see they too will be affected by the shit Trump plans to do."
In fact, she says directly that they support him, precisely because they want to believe he will make good on his promises.
If it "sounds" differently to you, it is because you are reading into it, things that are not there.
Perhaps, your own defensiveness about being accused of some form of bigotry.
Saying someone refuses to "wake up" and see the things Trump will cost them is more or less calling them ignorant.
Did you have anything else to add? Labeling half the Trump supporters as sexist and racist is indeed bigotry. The logic of "it's not wrong to call a sexist a sexist" doesn't fly unless you believe truly that half of them are sexists and racists.
So there is no way this wasn't some form of bigotry on the part of Hilary. Whether you choose to accept this reality or not is irrelevant.
Originally posted by Surtur
Saying someone refuses to "wake up" and see the things Trump will cost them is more or less calling them ignorant.
Can you read?
"They don't buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won't wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroin, feel like they're in a dead-end."
How do you see, "Trump is offering the promise of a better life—one in which they do not wake up one morning to find they have lost their job to outsourcing, or their child to drug addiction, or to the feeling that they have no prospects for the future," and read "They refuse to wake up and see the things Trump will cost them"?
I do not know if your reading comprehension is actually that poor, or if you are being deliberately obtuse.
Originally posted by Surtur
Did you have anything else to add? Labeling half the Trump supporters as sexist and racist is indeed bigotry. The logic of "it's not wrong to call a sexist a sexist" doesn't fly unless you believe truly that half of them are sexists and racists.So there is no way this wasn't some form of bigotry on the part of Hilary. Whether you choose to accept this reality or not is irrelevant.
Clinton prefaced her statement by saying that she was speaking in "gross generalities," and as it turns out, 72% of Trump voters doubt whether Obama was born in America, and a full 42% believe he was born in Kenya, so as it relates to just one racist conspiracy theory, she was only off by 8 points.
If the shoe fits.
roid-head racist snowflake's testicles suddenly vanish at 2:05