Loebforce Rulk versus DOS Doomsday

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Glad to hear you say this. If this showing is canon for Booster Gold then it lends quite a bit of credence to the idea that Booster Gold's force fields VARY in strength as cdtm and somebody else mentioned before.

That being said, anyone who is familiar with Booster also knows that when he's just flying around doing routine hero-work, he places the intensity of his shields on a fairly low setting to conserve power. When he engages in any sort of noteworthy battle, however, he always sets them to FULL intensity when possible.

If you have any other questions regarding Booster(or Doomsday, for that matter) I'd be glad to sort them out for you. 🙂

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Hey thanks for reminding me; TurboImageHost hasn't been allowing new uploads this evening, so I wanted to retrieve what I posted in response to Salsa's mention of "Radiant" over there.

I'll take it out of quotes so it'll be readily usable in this thread:

Salsa, I'm looking through Galan's posts. I'm not sure what you think he's mentioned that would give Doomsday the nod.

Coming back to this "Radiant" thing, though, I'll again point out that Hulk himself went against an energy being. Didn't have much affect.

Incredible Hulk #321, Hulk versus Monica Rambeau, aka then Captain Marvel, who tries virtually every form of energy at her disposal against Hulk, save gamma energy, to little discernible effect ...

... and then at another time tries gamma energy to little discernible effect:

I am not even going to debate. You know my situation and I think you will do the same if you were in the same position.

However I will like to mention that.

Maybe you should re read why Galan was giving the Nod To HP DD. It is there in plain English and if I can understand his point I am sure you can too.

Now onto the Hulk and Monica Rambeau showing:

That is cool and all but that is a HULK feat not a RULK feat. So not even sure what are you trying to pulling out of this one, are you trying to give RULK one of HULK's feats? Or what?

Not only that, but RADIANT is an energy being, the ultimate energy being according to the Jurgens narration. Not sure if you have read the comic of Hunter Prey but it is there in plain english, so to think Monica Rambeau is the same as Radiant it will be as wrong as trying to pin Hulk's feats into Rulk's repertoire.

You should read Doomsday year one, DOS, Hunter Prey, Doomsday Wars so you at least will get an idea of what we are talking about here, read them not only see the scans but read the stories, you will probably like them.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I am not even going to debate. You know my situation and I think you will do the same if you were in the same position.

The tragic case of Klerck was making the rounds in the news just before I joined my first Internet forum.
It put into perspective just how mortal and vulnerable and sometimes desperate people are on the other side of the screen.

I seldom forget there are real people behind most of these usernames as a result. It's why I've rarely if ever gone as far as other posters when I've had disagreements.

I have no idea what I would do if I were in your position, honestly.

I'll say a prayer for you, KC.

🙁

Originally posted by Rao Kal El

Now onto the Hulk and Monica Rambeau showing:

That is cool and all but that is a HULK feat not a RULK feat. So not even sure what are you trying to pulling out of this one, are you trying to give RULK one of HULK's feats? Or what?

Not only that, but RADIANT is an energy being, the ultimate energy being according to the Jurgens narration. Not sure if you have read the comic of Hunter Prey but it is there in plain english, so to think Monica Rambeau is the same as Radiant it will be as wrong as trying to pin Hulk's feats into Rulk's repertoire.

This is a point I can agree to only for the sake of argument. I have not seen anything that would actually convince me that what you're saying is true as Monica Rambeau /Captain Marvel is described in fairly similar terms.

The analogy should be easy to see, though, and I'm surprised you're having difficulty. Radiant is a DC analog of Monica Rambeau/Captain Marvel. Doomsday however, is the DC analog of Hulk, not Rulk.

Doomsday resists Radiant therefore beats Rulk doesn't follow.
Hulk resists Monica Rambeau therefore beats Rulk didn't follow either, at least, not initially.

The fact that Hulk could resist a being master of radiant energy did nothing to protect him from an energy ABSORBING foe (Rulk).

I don't see where the fact that Doomsday could resist a being master of radiant energy would protect HIM from an energy ABSORBING foe (Rulk), either.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
This is a point I can agree to only for the sake of argument. I have not seen anything that would actually convince me that what you're saying is true as Monica Rambeau /Captain Marvel is described in fairly similar terms.

The analogy should be easy to see, though, and I'm surprised you're having difficulty. Radiant is a DC analog of Monica Rambeau/Captain Marvel. [b]Doomsday however, is the DC analog of Hulk, not Rulk.

Doomsday resists Radiant therefore beats Rulk doesn't follow.
Hulk resists Monica Rambeau therefore beats Rulk didn't follow either, at least, not initially.

The fact that Hulk could resist a being master of radiant energy did nothing to protect him from an energy ABSORBING foe (Rulk).

I don't see where the fact that Doomsday could resist a being master of radiant energy would protect HIM from an energy ABSORBING foe (Rulk), either. [/B]

Doomsday isn't powered by stored energy. Fail again.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Doomsday isn't powered by stored energy. Fail again.

What is Doomsday powered by?

Rulk isn't Vulcan, guys.

When fighting OF Thor, for example, it wasn't as if he left Thor a dried out husk.

Moreover, using Hulk as an example is fallacious. Rulk has a limit....if he gets too angry, he burns himself out.

Hulk can just keep getting angrier and angrier.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
What is Doomsday powered by?

Evolution.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Doomsday isn't powered by stored energy. Fail again.

It would seem that he is:

Originally posted by TheHulkster
It would seem that he is:

Feeding on sunlight isn't the same as Superman being powered by sunlight.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Feeding on sunlight isn't the same as Superman being powered by sunlight.

Plus DD spent thousands of years with out sunlight.

I don't know what Rulk is going to try to feed out of Doomsday, however I do know what DD is going to feed Rulk. 😋

Galan has even admitted Doomsday was weakened before fighting Superman and becoming more powerful as the fight went on due to absorbing solar energy. Rulk absorbs the life out of him.

I know what Carver is trying to feed us. 💩

Originally posted by Delta1938
Evolution.

Evolution is a process, not a power source. Evolving is one of Doomsday's powers. It's like healing is one of Hulk's powers, but I wouldn't say that Hulk is powered by healing (and Hulk has also shown physical adaptation power himself).

-Doomsday can store solar energy for "A millennia"(ie. 1,000 years)... Yet he was buried/imprisoned in complete darkness for ~250,000 years, and still did what he did to Superman and the League.

-Soon thereafter, Doomsday reanimated from his 'death' at the hands of Superman, and was 'ported to Apokolips... Where there is NO solar radiation(at least not the yellow variety)...and still did what he did to Darkseid+Apokolips+an AMPED Superman+Radiant+Waverider, etc.

So while his genealogy may allow Doomsday to nourish himself to *some* extent via the absorption of solar energy, it is obviously NOT detrimental to his existence/power.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Feeding on sunlight isn't the same as Superman being powered by sunlight.

It doesn't say that he simply feeds on sunlight. It says that he is solely nourished by it. But he and Superman could feed off of a sandwich if the want to, but it is not necessary. By definition, that which nourishes you maintains your health, vigor and vital functions.

Originally posted by carver9
Galan has even admitted Doomsday was weakened before fighting Superman and becoming more powerful as the fight went on due to absorbing solar energy. Rulk absorbs the life out of him.

Get your shit together. srsly

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Evolution is a process, not a power source. Evolving is one of Doomsday's powers. It's like healing is one of Hulk's powers, but I wouldn't say that Hulk is powered by healing (and Hulk has also shown physical adaptation power himself).

It's not a power source, but he simply evolved to be that strong.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
It doesn't say that he simply feeds on sunlight. It says that he is solely nourished by it. But he and Superman could feed off of a sandwich if the want to, but it is not necessary. By definition, that which nourishes you maintains your health, vigor and vital functions.

The comic does not say he's powered by solar energy. To argue he gets his strength by solar energy is a circular argument. The best you can argue Rulk would do would be he gives Doomsday the munchies.

And are you just wanting Rulk to win and will go by any means necessary, or are you actually fairly debating the topic?

Why does it take so long years for him to escape? Could it be due to the lack of solar energy? Plus, the Earth's surface does absorb solar energy, so some probably reaches him.

Since comicbook DD is not, to my knowledge, Kryptonian, he wouldn't necessarily require yellow sunlight and my understanding is that New Genesis has some sort of sun. Superman doesn't lose his powers when he goes to Apokalips.

Originally posted by Delta1938
It's not a power source, but he simply evolved to be that strong.

The comic does not say he's powered by solar energy. To argue he gets his strength by solar energy is a circular argument. The best you can argue Rulk would do would be he gives Doomsday the munchies.

And are you just wanting Rulk to win and will go by any means necessary, or are you actually fairly debating the topic?

You're splitting hairs significantly here. Are you just wanting Doomsday to win and will go by any means necessary?

He is established with a stored energy source that is described as nourishing him. Nourishment provides strength. Rulk's ability to siphon such energy under Loeb is fair game that can't be discarded under the premise of DD not having a stored energy source.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
You're splitting hairs significantly here. Are you just wanting Doomsday to win and will go by any means necessary?

He is established with a stored energy source that is described as nourishing him. Nourishment provides strength. Rulk's ability to siphon such energy under Loeb is fair game that can't be discarded under the premise of DD not having a stored energy source.

No, I'm not. Nor am I just wanting Doomsday to win and will go by any means necessary. You're going through mental gymnastics to try and justify that Rulk will actually be any more effective than giving Doomsday the munchies.

So answer my question. Are you just trying to argue Rulk winning, or are you trying to debate fairly?