Should there be a special consel to investigate Loretta Lynch?

Some members of the GOP are calling for a special counsel to be formed to investigate Loretta Lynch due to the revelations by James Comey when he testified June 8th.

My question for those here is...should this be done?

sure why not.

Let it go.

I wouldn't have a problem with it.

country before party? what sort of batshit is that?

Trump should use his executive powers and get right on this, like he promised he was going to do against Clinton before he won 👆

Originally posted by Robtard
Trump should use his executive powers and get right on this, like he promised he was going to do against Clinton before he won 👆

Indeed, and once the Russia collusion narrative has been proven as nonsense once and for all that is something he should do. Otherwise people would just complain and say he's just trying to distract from Russia by looking into Lynch.

You're coming off rather "salty", brah. Everyone here so far has said they're pro investigation, so no need for salt.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're coming off rather "salty", brah. Everyone here so far has said they're pro investigation, so no need for salt.

I'm not, seems like another witch hunt.

Yes I think Hillary should have been prosecuted for her server but constantly rehashing is just tiresome.

Sure, country before party or party before country, needs to be investigated... : laugh:

Originally posted by Surtur
Indeed, and once the Russia collusion narrative has been proven as nonsense once and for all.

That certain there is nothing to it are we? Well, if there is nothing for Trump to fear in the Russian investigation then he is doing the worst impression of a man with nothing to hide that I have ever seen.

He seems obsessed with shutting it down. Going so far in that regard that now he has now triggered an obstruction of justice investigation as well.

I have never thought that Trump was in bed with the Russians over some political ideology. The man has none. And I doubt there will be any smoking gun showing him to have openly asked them or assisted them to interfere with the election. No, what I'm certain he fears is the exposure of his shady business dealings in Russia. And judging by his desperation to get this all shut down they must be shady indeed.

Despite his claims of being a great businessman his credit is actually so bad American banks won't loan him money anymore. I'd bet house payment money that he is getting money from some rather unsavory Russian oligarchs in exchange for laundering their money through a legitimate business. One of his casinos got in some hot water for money laundering as I recall so he knows the game. Also as president he is uniquely positioned to eventually ease sanctions and clear obstacles to certain major business deals involving Russia.

Well, if he could just get this pesky investigation shut down. Maybe he could fire the FBI director then tell the Russian ambassador that doing so had really got some heat off his back. LOL!

Originally posted by Robtard
You're coming off rather "salty", brah. Everyone here so far has said they're pro investigation, so no need for salt.

Not salty, merely pointing out reality. If Trump tried this now that is what folk would say.

On top of that, why is this reply salty, but your jab at Trump for breaking a promise wasn't?

Originally posted by Todd1700
That certain there is nothing to it are we? Well, if there is nothing for Trump to fear in the Russian investigation then he is doing the worst impression of a man with nothing to hide that I have ever seen.

Or he is just frustrated over this BS investigation. I would be too. Especially when those doing the investigation can't even stop leaks from being released. Especially after being told he wasn't being investigated and yet that somehow magically was one of the few things that never got leaked. I wonder why?

He seems obsessed with shutting it down. Going so far in that regard that now he has now triggered an obstruction of justice investigation as well.

Perhaps this is because the Democrats and our media are obsessed with trying to take him down.

I have never thought that Trump was in bed with the Russians over some political ideology. The man has none. And I doubt there will be any smoking gun showing him to have openly asked them or assisted them to interfere with the election. No, what I'm certain he fears is the exposure of his shady business dealings in Russia. And judging by his desperation to get this all shut down they must be shady indeed.

Or he's just tired of the bullshit and being smeared on a daily basis over nonsense. It's always Russia Russia Russia. The collusion narrative falls apart, so they need to go after something else to give the dogs a bone, now it's obstruction. Meanwhile? Don't you dare bring up the fact some people on Muellers staff donated thousands of dollars to Hilary's presidential campaign. If you do you're just trying to discredit Mueller.

Well, if he could just get this pesky investigation shut down. Maybe he could fire the FBI director then tell the Russian ambassador that doing so had really got some heat off his back. LOL!

At the very least maybe he could ask Mueller to refer to it as a "matter" instead of an investigation.

Originally posted by Surtur
Or he is just frustrated over this BS investigation. I would be too. Especially when those doing the investigation can't even stop leaks from being released.

Perhaps this is because our media is obsessed with trying to take him down.

Or he's just tired of the bullshit and being smeared on a daily basis over nonsense. It's always Russia Russia Russia. The collusion narrative falls apart, so they need to go after something else to give the dogs a bone, now it's obstruction. Meanwhile? Don't you dare bring up the fact some people on Muellers staff donated thousands of dollars to Hilary's presidential campaign. If you do you're just trying to discredit Mueller.

At the very least maybe he could ask Mueller to refer to it as a "matter" instead of an investigation.

Or he is just frustrated over this BS investigation. I would be too.

It doesn't matter what he is frustrated with. You can't attempt to shut down FBI investigations just because they might lead down roads that implicate some of your top appointees and advisors. Not to mention an investigation that might eventually implicate you as well. The sitting president even calling or meeting directly with the FBI director to ask about such investigations is in itself a violation of DOJ rules. And that's before you even get in to what was said. But of course what Trump said makes it much worse. He also apparently contacted director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and National Security Agency head Mike Rogers and asked them to pressure Comey to drop the Russia investigation. Then when none of that worked he fired Comey. That takes this beyond one slip up and establishes a pattern.

It's always Russia Russia Russia. The collusion narrative falls apart, so they need to go after something else to give the dogs a bone, now it's obstruction.

First of all I don't know where you get this notion that the Russian investigation has failed or hit a dead end. What's your source on that? Breitbart? InfoWars? Because no news source that has ever gotten close enough to smell a pile of s#*t left behind by a credible human being is reporting that the Russian investigation is coming to an end without finding anything. From what I can tell it seems to be going full steam and expanding into multiple new areas. Even Fox news acknowledges this.

Second, no one has switched to an obstruction case in frustration because the other investigation failed. Both are going on concurrently. The obstruction investigation was started because a 9 year old child watching the presidents actions and listening to the words from his own mouth would turn to his or her mother and say, "Holy s*#t I think the president is attempting to obstruct justice". It looks that obvious and bad.

Perhaps this is because our media is obsessed with trying to take him down.

And I'm sure you were equally offended at the right wing media's obsession with smearing Obama the entire 8 years he was in office. Or the entire medias daily reporting of the special prosecutor that investigated Bill Clinton back in the 90's. There may have been less news outlets back then but trust me everyone of them talked about Ken Stars investigation of Bill Clinton every single day. And you talk about being tired of this Russian investigation? LOL! Ken stars investigation of Bill Clinton lasted 6 years. Started with a 14 year old land deal in Arkansas and ended up with a totally unrelated sex scandal involving an intern. So pardon me if my ass isn't bleeding for your highly selective outrage over what the media covers or your fatigue with an investigation that hasn't been going on even a small fraction of the time that the republicans kept Ken Starr latched on Clintons ass. And keep in mind the democrats control no branch of government at this time. They have nothing to do with Trumps troubles. Trump has managed to draw all this onto himself in a time when republicans control every aspect of our government. What a dumbass.

At the very least maybe he could ask Mueller to refer to it as a "matter" instead of an investigation.

What the hell difference would that make? A rose by any other name. But more to the point there "is" an "investigation" going on so why would he call it anything else?

Originally posted by Todd1700
It doesn't matter what he is frustrated with. You can't attempt to shut down FBI investigations just because they might lead down roads that implicate some of your top appointees and advisors. Not to mention an investigation that might eventually implicate you as well. The sitting president even calling or meeting directly with the FBI director to ask about such investigations is in itself a violation of DOJ rules. And that's before you even get in to what was said. But of course what Trump said makes it much worse. He also apparently contacted director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and National Security Agency head Mike Rogers and asked them to pressure Comey to drop the Russia investigation. Then when none of that worked he fired Comey. That takes this beyond one slip up and establishes a pattern.

First of all I don't know where you get this notion that the Russian investigation has failed or hit a dead end. What's your source on that? Breitbart? InfoWars? Because no news source that has ever gotten close enough to smell a pile of s#*t left behind by a credible human being is reporting that the Russian investigation is coming to an end without finding anything. From what I can tell it seems to be going full steam and expanding into multiple new areas. Even Fox news acknowledges this.

Second, no one has switched to an obstruction case in frustration because the other investigation failed. Both are going on concurrently. The obstruction investigation was started because a 9 year old child watching the presidents actions and listening to the words from his own mouth would turn to his or her mother and say, "Holy s*#t I think the president is attempting to obstruct justice". It looks that obvious and bad.

And I'm sure you were equally offended at the right wing media's obsession with smearing Obama the entire 8 years he was in office. Or the entire medias daily reporting of the special prosecutor that investigated Bill Clinton back in the 90's. There may have been less news outlets back then but trust me everyone of them talked about Ken Stars investigation of Bill Clinton every single day. And you talk about being tired of this Russian investigation? LOL! Ken stars investigation of Bill Clinton lasted 6 years. Started with a 14 year old land deal in Arkansas and ended up with a totally unrelated sex scandal involving an intern. So pardon me if my ass isn't bleeding for your highly selective outrage over what the media covers.

What the hell difference would that make? A rose by any other name. But more to the point there "is" an "investigation" going on so why would he call it anything else?

👆 Good Post

Originally posted by Todd1700
It doesn't matter what he is frustrated with. You can't attempt to shut down FBI investigations just because they might lead down roads that implicate some of your top appointees and advisors. Not to mention an investigation that might eventually implicate you as well. The sitting president even calling or meeting directly with the FBI director to ask about such investigations is in itself a violation of DOJ rules. And that's before you even get in to what was said. But of course what Trump said makes it much worse. He also apparently contacted director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and National Security Agency head Mike Rogers and asked them to pressure Comey to drop the Russia investigation. Then when none of that worked he fired Comey. That takes this beyond one slip up and establishes a pattern.

It needs to be noted he didn't attempt to shut down an investigation. Firing Comey did not stop the investigation. Though I'm not saying he didn't make mistakes. He shouldn't have cleared the room to talk to Comey alone.

First of all I don't know where you get this notion that the Russian investigation has failed or hit a dead end. What's your source on that? Breitbart? InfoWars? Because no news source that has ever gotten close enough to smell a pile of s#*t left behind by a credible human being is reporting that the Russian investigation is coming to an end without finding anything. From what I can tell it seems to be going full steam and expanding into multiple new areas. Even Fox news acknowledges this.

Lol it's not from any site it is just my opinion that the collusion narrative has failed. Now they are turning to obstruction of justice. We have leaks to show he is being investigated, but strangely no leaks of any actual evidence of wrongdoing.

Second, no one has switched to an obstruction case in frustration because the other investigation failed. Both are going on concurrently. The obstruction investigation was started because a 9 year old child watching the presidents actions and listening to the words from his own mouth would turn to his or her mother and say, "Holy s*#t I think the president is attempting to obstruct justice". It looks that obvious and bad.

And I disagree, I think that is what they are going after him more aggressively now for. Again this is just my opinion, so no I am not getting this from Breitbart.

And I'm sure you were equally offended at the right wing media's obsession with smearing Obama the entire 8 years he was in office. Or the entire medias daily reporting of the special prosecutor that investigated Bill Clinton back in the 90's. There may have been less news outlets back then but trust me everyone of them talked about Ken Stars investigation of Bill Clinton every single day. And you talk about being tired of this Russian investigation? LOL! Ken stars investigation of Bill Clinton lasted 6 years. Started with a 14 year old land deal in Arkansas and ended up with a totally unrelated sex scandal involving an intern. So pardon me if my ass isn't bleeding for your highly selective outrage over what the media covers or your fatigue with an investigation that hasn't been going on even a small fraction of the time that the republicans kept Ken Starr latched on Clintons ass. And keep in mind the democrats control no branch of government at this time. They have nothing to do with Trumps troubles. Trump has managed to draw all this onto himself in a time when republicans control every aspect of our government. What a dumbass.

So a deflection? Okay, this will be interesting. Whenever people here feel I am deflecting to Hilary Clinton they call it out. Let us see if they call you out for it.

What the hell difference would that make? A rose by any other name. But more to the point there "is" an "investigation" going on so why would he call it anything else?

It was a joke, you know because of the whole "call it a matter not an investigation" thing with Lynch.

Well it's easier to leak something vague like "Trump is now being looked at for obstruction of justice" than something more specific and probably much better guarded like actual evidence.

Plus, personally, I think Mueller intentionally let it out that Trump is now under personal investigation in order to protect himself from potentially being fired for frivolous reasons.

Originally posted by BackFire
Well it's easier to leak something vague like "Trump is now being looked at for obstruction of justice" than something more specific and probably much better guarded like actual evidence.

Plus, personally, I think Mueller intentionally let it out that Trump is now under personal investigation in order to protect himself from potentially being fired for frivolous reasons.

That is my theory too, either it was Mueller or someone close to him.

Though serious question: do you think this special counsel is going to be fair? Here are some of the people on his staff:

Michael Dreeben - donated to Obama and Clinton

Jeannie Rhee - deputy assist AG, Wilmer Hale, Donated to DNC, Obama, Clinton

James Quarles - asst. special prosecutor, Wilmer Hale, long history of Dem donations, Clinton

Andrew Weissman - oversees fraud at Justice. Donated six times to Obama PACs as well as DNC in 2006.

Also isn't Mueller himself a friend of Comey's?

Being supportive of Democrats doesn't really matter, the evidence will be the evidence. I mean, it's now their job to try and find dirt on Trump and his campaign; makes sense to get people who aren't terribly friendly towards him. Investigators should be somewhat hostile towards those they're investigating - makes it more likely they'll actually attempt to find damaging information if it exists.