Bane vs. Ivan Drago

Originally posted by NemeBro
That old, crippled Bruce would also have a solid shot at beating Drago.

Are you under the impression that Drago's skin would be immune to being bitten by large dogs? Drago would have just been killed. 👆

Also, how are dogs being able to bite him and take him down prove that they don't provide resistance to blunt force? You're dumb my friend.

And the other movie showed as that Bane can lift a 200+ pound man in full body armour over his head and punch holes in monolithic limestone columns, none of which a human being could replicate. I wasn't actually using Rocky withstanding Drago's punches as proof that Drago's punches are weak. Are you intelligent enough to understand why I brought it up? I kind of doubt it.

That fat manlet is going to beat Drago to death. 🙂

They largely didn't, something about Bane just reminds you of your micropenis or something. I have no idea why you have this intense hatred of the character.

Billed height? He's been billed at 5'11", more accurate sources and Hardy himself claim he is 5'9". Do you have a source to prove your own claim?

Body armor is absolute dogshit at protecting against blunt force trauma, it's designed to stop bullets, not hammers. Drago would probably fair better, tbh. Baleman's H2H were always trash.

Lifting someone by the neck up is barely even impressive in movies. Basically everyone does it. Hell, even real world people can do it, though usually with two hands. Some shitty old column may have crumbled, but guess what didn't? The old, crippled Batman that beat his ass. And drop the attitude, you have a freaking anime avatar for God's sake.

Yeah, right. Call me when he beat someone worth talking about first.

I dislike him because he was a joke. A mockery of the comic book character.

Yes, my eyes. Hardy's short as hell. Just watch taboo.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Body armor is absolute dogshit at protecting against blunt force trauma, it's designed to stop bullets, not hammers.

I've already covered this. Kevlar is not particularly good for protecting from blunt force trauma, but that's not the only material making up the suit. The cowl explicitly protects against blunt force trauma, though Bane could still break it. 👆

Drago would probably fair better, tbh. Baleman's H2H were always trash.

Nah, Drago would have died my son.

Lifting someone by the neck up is barely even impressive in movies. Basically everyone does it.

That you actually thought this was a legitimate point only illustrates the depths of your stupidity my friend.

Anyone who has a feat like Bane's in a film also has superhuman physical strength beyond Drago's. 👆

Hell, even real world people can do it,

They haven't, at least not in the context Bane did. Were their back pressed against a wall it might be possible.

though usually with two hands.

Then they haven't done it, have they?

Some shitty old column may have crumbled, but guess what didn't? The old, crippled Batman that beat his ass.

Who would also beat Drago's ass. He also wasn't crippled anymore. Any argument to the contrary is outright ignoring the film my son.

And drop the attitude,

Make me you little limp-dicked phaggot. 👆

you have a freaking anime avatar for God's sake.

go on

Yeah, right. Call me when he beat someone worth talking about first.

He beat up Batman. 👆

I dislike him because he was a joke. A mockery of the comic book character.

Geez, you're really so emotionally fragile you're holding a grudge against the villain of a mediocre movie because you're attached to his comic incarnation?

Yes, my eyes. Hardy's short as hell. Just watch taboo.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I've already covered this. Kevlar is not particularly good for protecting from blunt force trauma, but that's not the only material making up the suit. The cowl explicitly protects against blunt force trauma, though Bane could still break it. 👆

Nah, Drago would have died my son.

That you actually thought this was a legitimate point only illustrates the depths of your stupidity my friend.

Anyone who has a feat like Bane's in a film also has superhuman physical strength beyond Drago's. 👆

They haven't, at least not in the context Bane did. Were their back pressed against a wall it might be possible.

Then they haven't done it, have they?

Who would also beat Drago's ass. He also wasn't crippled anymore. Any argument to the contrary is outright ignoring the film my son.

Make me you little limp-dicked phaggot. 👆

go on

He beat up Batman. 👆

Geez, you're really so emotionally fragile you're holding a grudge against the villain of a mediocre movie because you're attached to his comic incarnation?

So no, you don't have a source. I accept your concession little man. 👆

You've already tried to bullshit your way out of this, but you failed. His armor's durability was downgraded in TDK to favor mobility.

Nah. He's actually superhuman, unlike Bale. He wouldn't get beaten up by some dogs and a clown.

Lol, you clown, there are ****ing youtube videos of this. I've seen it happen in person. I've even done it once. As long as the other person is lighter than you it's perfectly doable. Try lifting some time.

Drago's punching power is beyond Bane's based on their track records agains real opponents, not some meme column.

Yes, he was. He was using some gadget to compensate for his bum leg, but that doesn't mean his leg wasn't still busted. And then there's his broken back, which simply cannot heal in a few months. Not fully, at least. Bane is a fat loser who lost to a crippled old guy, who was never that good to begin with.

Nice retorts, did you learn them in grade school, son? I'm guessing you were raised by a single mother, it's the only way to explain your beta attitude.

I never really cared for Bane or Batman, tbh. I just find the movie version to be pathetic.

Mate, every source lists him as 5'9, which means he's 5'7 at best.

Originally posted by Psychotron
You've already tried to bullshit your way out of this, but you failed. His armor's durability was downgraded in TDK to favor mobility.

"Downgraded" does not mean "removed" my very dumb friend.

Nah. He's actually superhuman, unlike Bale.

Baleman literally bicep-curled Liam Neeson's entire body from over the edge of a cliff, which would be over 200 pounds, in a very compromising position (on his back). Apparently this is the world record for a one-arm bicep curl?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp91HIGetnY

If so, that would make Baleman superhuman.

He wouldn't get beaten up by some dogs and a clown.

He would have lost to just the dogs tbh. Also, as I recall Baleman won that fight. 🙂

Lol, you clown, there are ****ing youtube videos of this. I've seen it happen in person. I've even done it once. As long as the other person is lighter than you it's perfectly doable. Try lifting some time.

It's might be possible if the person being lifted is considerably smaller than the other person. That is not the case with Baleman compared to Bane my friend. Per your own words, Bane is actually smaller than Baleman. 🙂

Show me a video of Bane's feat being replicated by a human then, my son.

Drago's punching power is beyond Bane's based on their track records agains real opponents, not some meme column.

Based on their track records against real opponents?

Well on one hand we have Drago, who couldn't KO a lightly-clothed man in ten rounds and took two to kill an older and out of shape man. On the other hand we have Bane, who could badly beat a man wearing body armour and break his cowl despite it specifically being made to resist blunt force trauma.

Yes, he was. He was using some gadget to compensate for his bum leg, but that doesn't mean his leg wasn't still busted.

Yeah he was definitely in relatively poor shape there.

And then there's his broken back, which simply cannot heal in a few months. Not fully, at least. Bane is a fat loser who lost to a crippled old guy, who was never that good to begin with.

It's not realistic no, but the movie trumps real life in this instance. 🙂

Nice retorts, did you learn them in grade school, son? I'm guessing you were raised by a single mother, it's the only way to explain your beta attitude.

I started our interaction by taking your anal virginity and have been tearing into your little milk dud ever since lad.

I never really cared for Bane or Batman, tbh. I just find the movie version to be pathetic.

Does it remind you of something you hate about yourself my son? Come here, hug me, it'll be okay little guy.

Mate, every source lists him as 5'9, which means he's 5'7 at best.

Naw that's okay, I'll just take your concession again. I don't know why you gave it to me when I already had it, but I'll accept it all the same. 👆

Originally posted by NemeBro
"Downgraded" does not mean "removed" my very dumb friend.

Baleman literally bicep-curled Liam Neeson's entire body from over the edge of a cliff, which would be over 200 pounds, in a very compromising position (on his back). Apparently this is the world record for a one-arm bicep curl?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp91HIGetnY

If so, that would make Baleman superhuman.

He would have lost to just the dogs tbh. Also, as I recall Baleman won that fight. 🙂

It's might be possible if the person being lifted is considerably smaller than the other person. That is not the case with Baleman compared to Bane my friend. Per your own words, Bane is actually smaller than Baleman. 🙂

Show me a video of Bane's feat being replicated by a human then, my son.

Based on their track records against real opponents?

Well on one hand we have Drago, who couldn't KO a lightly-clothed man in ten rounds and took two to kill an older and out of shape man. On the other hand we have Bane, who could badly beat a man wearing body armour and break his cowl despite it specifically being made to resist blunt force trauma.

Yeah he was definitely in relatively poor shape there.

It's not realistic no, but the movie trumps real life in this instance. 🙂

I started our interaction by taking your anal virginity and have been tearing into your little milk dud ever since lad.

Does it remind you of something you hate about yourself my son? Come here, hug me, it'll be okay little guy.

So once again, you have no source, but expect people to just take your word for it? mmm

Naw that's okay, I'll just take your concession again. I don't know why you gave it to me when I already had it, but I'll accept it all the same. 👆

It means it was weaker, that's the point. It was inferior to real kevlar at that point, which wouldn't protect anyone against the punches of a superhuman.

Meh, not really that impressive considering the circumstances and the adrenaline rush. Real humans have performed superior feats under duress.

He really didn't.

Bane is shorter, he's not smaller. He had an entire tire around his waist. You should spend more time in school and less time shitposting.
Just google it. Hell, there are plenty of (comic) Bane-sized wrestlers throttling other wrestlers and none of those guys are superhuman.

So you admit Bane's only relevant victory was against a cripple.

Shit argument. The movie doesn't trump its own internal logic. Bruce's injury was a major plot point. His ability to beat Bane with a bum leg and busted back is a great willpower feat for him, but also a horrible showing for Bane.

Yawn. Yet more cringe from a 14-year-old betamax.

The comic book version reminds me of me. The movie version reminds me of what the average 45-year-old construction worker looks like.

Kid, he looks like a dwarf standing next to Bale.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Cool, I guess Batman is durable enough to take jackhammer hits, huh?

Originally posted by h1a8
He has a protective suit.

Put on a kevlar vest and give me a jackhammer. Let's see how protective it really is.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Put on a kevlar vest and give me a jackhammer. Let's see how protective it really is.

Originally posted by h1a8
Kevlar is just one of the ingredients. Motorcycle hard cowl, metal plating in other areas.

Still wouldn't do anything against a hammer. You know blunt weapons like maces were favored in medieval times because of their effectiveness against armor, right?

Bane wins

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Bane wins

Wrong. A simple backhand from a crippled Batman broke Bane's mask. What do you think a 2150 PSI punch would do to it?

Rocky was taking them just fine. 👆

Show me what durability feats from Drago make you think he can withstand Bane's pilar busting, armor wrecking punches?

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Rocky was taking them just fine. 👆

Show me what durability feats from Drago make you think he can withstand Bane's pilar busting, armor wrecking punches?

Rocky's damage soak has always been ridiculous. He almost beat the world heavyweight champion at 60 after being retired for 20 years ffs.

Old Bruce took Bane's hits just fine, you know. Drago went to war with Rocky at his peak and lasted almost to the end. Rocky himself is strong enough to toss a 300+ lbs man over the top rope and he's got speed training from Apollo so we know his punches hit hard as hell.

Drago doesn't need to take them anyway. His superior reach and skills + his insane striking power are enough to put Bane to sleep before he sustains any serious damage.

It was a hollow pillar that did not behave like concrete. This is what was shown in screen so that is what we must go by.

Concrete doesn't behave that way when broken or hit by great force.

Both Hardy and Stallone are around 5'7", Mr. Lundgren is like 6'4". Drago had plenty of lifting feats in the training montages, had the 2150 PSI punch that Psychotron mentioned, and both he and Rocky annihilated each other in the ring. By the time of Rocky IV, both were superhuman bodybuilder fighters more than boxers (e.g. Rocky got knocked down by Drago in one of their fight's rounds, got right up and taunted Drago to give him another combo on the chin, Drago obliged him, Rocky goes down and came right back up again.)

I'd give the clear edge to Drago, though it's (obviously) closer than a Cap or WS fight.

Originally posted by Inhuman
It was a hollow pillar that did not behave like concrete. This is what was shown in screen so that is what we must go by.

Concrete doesn't behave that way when broken or hit by great force.

In the other scenes the actual stone columns were shown. If the writer intended on the columns to be made of drywall then all the scenes would have shown the columns the same. We wouldn't have gotten the sudden switch the moment Bane attempts to punch the column.

This is called the "rag doll" effect.
If in one scene you see a real person but in the next (when the person is subject to being damaged or hurt) you see a rag doll then clearly we know that the intention of the writer is for the rag doll be the person.

Who cares about the damn column? What's important is how Bane's punches affect human opponents and we know they're not enough to put down an old, broken Batman, never mind a 6'5 superhuman.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Still wouldn't do anything against a hammer. You know blunt weapons like maces were favored in medieval times because of their effectiveness against armor, right?

You know that Batman was still hurt by those hits right. Batman's durability and resistance to damage by blunt force is great for a human.

Originally posted by h1a8
If high grade Kevlar reinforced with metal plating can stop bullets then that combination would definitely dampen Bane's hits. Medieval armor wasn't bulletproof.

You know that Batman was still hurt by those hits right. Batman's durability and resistance to damage by blunt force is great for a human.

Not really, all Kevlar does is stop penetration, the kinetic energy doesn't just disappear. That's why getting shot still hurts so much even with Kevlar.

He was hurt, but not that much, and considering how battered he was at that point it's a really low showing for Bane.

Now you tell me how Bane is going to defend his flimsy mask from Drago's 2150 PSI punches when a simple back hand from Baleman broke it.

h1 doesn't understand how modern armor works.