Bane vs. Ivan Drago

Started by Henry_Pym3 pages

Yeah... We wear plates for the shock and Kevlar or gel substitutes for shrapnel... Kevlar can be stabbed through it is just a really thick knit effectively.

Originally posted by h1a8
So do you want to continue to troll and ignore the evidence I gave? I said many times that the column suddenly changed appearance (even the color) in the scene Bane struck it.

You are clearly the troll here. You have not given any evidence other that your opinion. I have posted actual evidence from the movie.
You dont have to guess or assume in my evidence because you can see it with your own eyes.
The evidence you provide is speculation, your opinion, or things we have to imagine because we cant see them with our own eyes and never happened in the movie.

We can ask for a Mod rule if posting actual evidence from a movie to help an argument is trolling. Or if posting personal opinions, and assumptions with no evidence is trolling.

Originally posted by h1a8
In the other scenes the actual stone columns were shown. If the writer intended on the columns to be made of drywall then all the scenes would have shown the columns the same. We wouldn't have gotten the sudden switch the moment Bane attempts to punch the column.

What does how an object "looks" like have to do with whats it "made" of? Show me evidence from the movie that shows the column changing colors and appearance.
As far as the pillar being drywall or not, again the evidence is shown on the gif i posted.
Even if you say the pillar was not dry wall. There are 2 things we are sure of:

1. The pillar is hollow not solid.

2. The pillar is not made of concrete. Concrete doesn't behave in the way the pillar does when broken. So if you want to say that it wasnt dry wall , evidence also shows that the pillar was NOT concrete.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is called the "rag doll" effect.
If in one scene you see a real person but in the next (when the person is subject to being damaged or hurt) you see a rag doll then clearly we know that the intention of the writer is for the rag doll be the person.

Can you post in interview or where you are getting as to what the writer wanted. Post evidence not your conclusions based on your opinions.

So basically you are trying to dismiss my evidence that I posted, that you can clearly see with your own eyes. That is not my opinion , but it is what is shown in the movie.
VS.
Your opinion as to what happened and your opinion of what the writer wanted. Even going as far as to use the "ragdoll" copout to help your argument. Again the ragdoll thing isnt evidence , its your opinion of what you think happened.

Post evidence (FROM THE MOVIE) to back up your opinions. If not then your argument and opinions mean nothing.

LOL @ you thinking im trolling by me posting evidence from the movie.

H1 is saying these pillars were made of solid concrete (regardless of what is shown in the film)

In another thread H1 is saying that the Submarine that Cap swam faster than and punched the glass window of was a "TOY Submarine" . Even though the on screen evidence shows it was a highly advanced Hydra sub.

😂

Originally posted by Inhuman
You are clearly the troll here. You have not given any evidence other that your opinion. I have posted actual evidence from the movie.
You dont have to guess or assume in my evidence because you can see it with your own eyes.
The evidence you provide is speculation, your opinion, or things we have to imagine because we cant see them with our own eyes and never happened in the movie.

We can ask for a Mod rule if posting actual evidence from a movie to help an argument is trolling. Or if posting personal opinions, and assumptions with no evidence is trolling.

What does how an object "looks" like have to do with whats it "made" of? Show me evidence from the movie that shows the column changing colors and appearance.
As far as the pillar being drywall or not, again the evidence is shown on the gif i posted.
Even if you say the pillar was not dry wall. There are 2 things we are sure of:

1. The pillar is hollow not solid.

2. The pillar is not made of concrete. Concrete doesn't behave in the way the pillar does when broken. So if you want to say that it wasnt dry wall , evidence also shows that the pillar was NOT concrete.

Can you post in interview or where you are getting as to what the writer wanted. Post evidence not your conclusions based on your opinions.

So basically you are trying to dismiss my evidence that I posted, that you can clearly see with your own eyes. That is not my opinion , but it is what is shown in the movie.
VS.
Your opinion as to what happened and your opinion of what the writer wanted. Even going as far as to use the "ragdoll" copout to help your argument. Again the ragdoll thing isnt evidence , its your opinion of what you think happened.

Post evidence (FROM THE MOVIE) to back up your opinions. If not then your argument and opinions mean nothing.

LOL @ you thinking im trolling by me posting evidence from the movie.

H1 is saying these pillars were made of solid concrete (regardless of what is shown in the film)

In another thread H1 is saying that the Submarine that Cap swam faster than and punched the glass window of was a "TOY Submarine" . Even though the on screen evidence shows it was a highly advanced Hydra sub.

😂

You are very close to me reporting you. I posted evidence that the column changed drastically the moment Bane struck the column. In ALL the other scenes before the punch we see a different column (the real stone one).

This destroys your evidence and proves the "rag doll" effect.

You ignoring the quick change in columns and repeating the fact that Bane punched through prop material is trolling.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Yeah... We wear plates for the shock and Kevlar or gel substitutes for shrapnel... Kevlar can be stabbed through it is just a really thick knit effectively.
stabbed is not blunt force. Bullets are blunt force and Bane punches are blunt force.

Originally posted by h1a8
You are very close to me reporting you. I posted evidence that the column changed drastically the moment Bane struck the column. In ALL the other scenes before the punch we see a different column (the real stone one).

This destroys your evidence and proves the "rag doll" effect.

You ignoring the quick change in columns and repeating the fact that Bane punched through prop material is trolling.

Go ahead and report me.

You are clearly the one trolling here. You want to dismiss and ignore actual in movie feats and replace them with our own biased opinions.

Please report me because I want a mod rule on this. I want to know if posting actual evidence as proof from the movie the characters in question appeared in, is in fact trolling.

Or is assuming and forcing your own biased opinion on what you think happened is the correct way to debate here.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Wrong. A simple backhand from a crippled Batman broke Bane's mask. What do you think a 2150 PSI punch would do to it?
Cherry picking eh? The same mask that no sold Batman's best haymakers with 0 damage. Obviously we can assume that the mask can take only so much before giving in.

Also I don't see Drago even hitting Bane. Bane can easily snap his neck. Drago has 0 grappling ability. Rocky easily picked him up and slammed him.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Go ahead and report me.

You are clearly the one trolling here. You want to dismiss and ignore actual in movie feats and replace them with our own biased opinions.

Please report me because I want a mod rule on this. I want to know if posting actual evidence as proof from the movie the characters in question appeared in is trolling.

Or is assuming and forcing your own biased opinion on what you think happened is the correct way to debate.

You are reposting the same thing when it has been refuted. This is trolling.

That's exactly like posting the scene where one punches a rag doll and claiming it wasn't a real human, when in the very scene before it WAS A REAL HUMAN.

Originally posted by h1a8
You are reposting the same thing when it has been refuted. This is trolling.

That's exactly like posting the scene where one punches a rag doll and claiming it wasn't a real human, when in the very scene before it WAS A REAL HUMAN.

It hasnt been refuted. Posting your opinions against about what the actual scene showed is not refuting the feat.

Nolan has said that his characters in the batman movies were not super powered. They were very grounded in reality.

You are trying to award Bane super human abilities based off of 1 feat.
Even if Bane was above peak human he still is SLOW and not too skilled. He would lose either way.

Originally posted by h1a8
You are very close to me reporting you. I posted evidence that the column changed drastically the moment Bane struck the column. In ALL the other scenes before the punch we see a different column (the real stone one).

This destroys your evidence and proves the "rag doll" effect.

You ignoring the quick change in columns and repeating the fact that Bane punched through prop material is trolling.

No, you posted your reasoning for why you believe what you do. your opinion has never constituted evidence or proof.

Originally posted by h1a8
You are reposting the same thing when it has been refuted. This is trolling.

That's exactly like posting the scene where one punches a rag doll and claiming it wasn't a real human, when in the very scene before it WAS A REAL HUMAN.

You stating your opinion is not refuting his on screen evidence, it's you posting an opinion about on screen evidence. How many times must you be told that your opinion and evidence/proof are two different things?

Originally posted by Inhuman
It hasnt been refuted. Posting your opinions against about what the actual scene showed is not refuting the feat.

Nolan has said that his characters in the batman movies were not super powered. They were very grounded in reality.

You are trying to award Bane super human abilities based off of 1 feat.
Even if Bane was above peak human he still is SLOW and not too skilled. He would lose either way.

That doesn't refute the sudden change in columns when Bane struck it. Yes, 1 feat. You can argue PIS if you want then I might concede.

Originally posted by h1a8
The same mask that no sold Batman's best haymakers with 0 damage.

Drago's is much stronger than Bruce.

Originally posted by h1a8
Also I don't see Drago even hitting Bane.

Lmao. Drago was an actual striker, Bane was just a brawler flailing his arms all over the place.

Originally posted by h1a8
Bane can easily snap his neck. Drago has 0 grappling ability. Rocky easily picked him up and slammed him.

Lol. Bane can't even get close enough to grab him. Drago has like 9 inches on him and enough punching power to send Bane back into the pit. Any time Bane tries to move in close to land a hit or grapple Drago will just jab his bald head off. How many of those 2150 PSI punches can his mask take? Not more than 3-4 hits I'd wager.

And what grappling ability did Bane have, exactly? Holding someone weaker than you by the throat isn't actual grappling, you know. Especially since Bane would need a step ladder to reach Drago's throat.

Rocky also overpowered, picked up, and tossed a near-7 foot, 330+ lbs pro-wrestler over the top rope in Rocky 3. Rocky is just a stong mofo.