Terror Attack London - Finsbury Park Mosque

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Come on that's completely ridiculous. By that same token you could judge the left as a whole off of the actions and arguments of those who claim all white people are racist and it's impossible for black people to be racist, or those who actually defend communism as a good ideology, or those on feminist frequency claiming that political violence is a necessity, or the spreading of the wage gap myth. As somebody on the left who rejects all of those things, I would find it absurd for me to be judge based on the actions and stances of other people also on the left.

This idea of collective guilt, that you can say "this person is a hypocrite, so therefore it's okay for me to judge other people on their political wing based on this persons actions" is ridiculous. And I have no love for conservative ideology, and in fact find a lot of conservative stances regressive, but judging conservatives on the whole based on Surtur is not a fair judgement.

Surtur is at the bottom end of the intellectual gene pool, it would be unfair to judge all conservative's by his opinions. 🙁

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
So that's the entire BLM movement? Have you got any black friends DMB?

Also yes I have black friends, and criticism of BLM are not criticisms of black people because "black person" does not equate to "BLM supporter." BLM does not have a monopoly on the support or interests of all black people just the same as feminism doesn't have a monopoly on the support or interests of all women, and the alt-right and other shitty white identitarian movements don't have a monopoly on the support or interests of all white people.

Just because a movement claims to advocate for a specific group does not make them official representatives of that group.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
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Surtur is at the bottom end of the intellectual gene pool, it would be unfair to judge all conservative's by his opinions. 🙁

Never ceases to amaze me how many fvcking dickheads there are in the world. That being said, after spending 3 days in London over the weekend I wanted to kill people as well.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Let me rephrase my statement, those specific people and crowds in BLM who call for the deaths of cops are pieces of shit (and that includes one of BLM's founders who cited a cop murderer on the FBI's most wanted list as an inspiration). I really hate the idea of collective guilt, so I should have been more specific and clear with my statement.

Also yes I have black friends, and criticism of BLM are not criticisms of black people because "black person" does not equate to "BLM supporter." BLM does not have a monopoly on the support or interests of all black people just the same as feminism doesn't have a monopoly on the support or interests of all women, and the alt-right and other shitty white identitarian movements don't have a monopoly on the support or interests of all white people.

Just because a movement claims to advocate for a specific group does not make them official representatives of that group.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
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Surtur is at the bottom end of the intellectual gene pool, it would be unfair to judge all conservative's by his opinions. 🙁

Lol, pot, kettle, black, etc.

Originally posted by jaden101
Never ceases to amaze me how many fvcking dickheads there are in the world. That being said, after spending 3 days in London over the weekend I wanted to kill people as well.

Originally posted by Surtur
How does that equate to you condemning the left on this forum?

It could be they were fed up with the terror attacks and decided to do something. Just like the Virginia shooter was apparently fed up with the Republicans and decided to go shoot some.

Combine those feelings with some violent rhetoric and you have a recipe for disaster.

I've condemned Hillary many times. I also condemned Michael Brown. As well as protection of radical Islam (although now that appears to be something both liberals and your Trump buddy have in common)

So violent rhetoric can lead to
violence. Good. So back during the campaign when 2 conservatives assaulted a homeless Hispanic man, you agree that was due to Trump's violent rhetoric.

Its odd how when it comes to conservative terrorists, you understand their motivations are feelings of hate and embitterment, yet you ask why there are Muslim attacks. Like Muslims don't work along the same line of human thinking as everyone else.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I've condemned Hillary many times. I also condemned Michael Brown. As well as protection of radical Islam (although now that appears to be something both liberals and your Trump buddy have in common)

So violent rhetoric can lead to
violence. Good. So back during the campaign when 2 conservatives assaulted a homeless Hispanic man, you agree that was due to Trump's violent rhetoric.

Its odd how when it comes to conservative terrorists, you understand their motivations are feelings of hate and embitterment, yet you ask why there are Muslim attacks. Like Muslims don't work along the same line of human thinking as everyone else.

Because the Muslims are doing it int he name of their horrid religion. Don't get it twisted, there is hate involved lol. They hate you if you aren't a part of their horrid religion. There is bitterness involved. They are bitter the entire world doesn't follow their horrid religion.

"Their horrid religion"? You do know ideologies are interpreted subjectively right? How can any religious or political ideology be inherently horrid? I thought you were smarter than that Surt

Also of their religion is horrid, does that make the victims of the attack horrid people?

Also, if were going to ban all horrid ideologies, shouldn't we outlaw the KKK and Kim Davis type Christians?

It almost sounds like a bigoted statement. hmm

KKK and Kim Davis types are still >>> The average Mussie living in th UK.

Originally posted by Lestov16
"Their horrid religion"? You do know ideologies are interpreted subjectively right? How can any religious or political ideology be inherently horrid? I thought you were smarter than that Surt

If one of it's prophets f*cked a kid and tortured a jew to death for treasure...that's a horrid religion. The killing of poets for speaking against him also does not boil down to an "interpretation".

Also of their religion is horrid, does that make the victims of the attack horrid people?

No, the religion is horrid. We have an Islam problem, not a Muslim problem.

Also, if were going to ban all horrid ideologies, shouldn't we outlaw the KKK and Kim Davis type Christians?

Yes lol. Though I feel like you kinda lift up the KKK when you are including them along side people like Kim Davis.

Anyway, as I was saying, this sounds like a stage set-up
For one, it is extremely convenient for the tired discourse that is always spun ("racist whitey bears all sin"😉, the damage was quite far from the Mosque where MSM says it happened, and as I pointed out, the guy's line was hammy as hell.

Originally posted by Surtur
If one of it's prophets f*cked a kid and tortured a jew to death for treasure...that's a horrid religion. The killing of poets for speaking against him also does not boil down to an "interpretation".

No, the religion is horrid. We have an Islam problem, not a Muslim problem.

Yes lol. Though I feel like you kinda lift up the KKK when you are including them along side people like Kim Davis.

Umm...have you read the Bible? You think the Quran is the only scripture with violence in it? So you think torturing a Jew to death in the Koran means the entirety of Islam is evil, but stoning gays to death and enslaving rival tribes in the Bible doesn't mean Christianity is bad....

You are the EPITOME of hypocrisy...or ignorance...or both....

Originally posted by Beniboybling
It almost sounds like a bigoted statement. hmm

It's not. Why? Cuz I said it's not. I also feel it's observably true.

These things erase bigotry like magic.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Umm...have you read the Bible? You think the Quran is the only scripture with violence in it? So you think torturing a Jew to death in the Koran means the entirety of Islam is evil, but stoning gays to death and enslaving rival tribes in the Bible doesn't mean Christianity is bad....

You are the EPITOME of hypocrisy...or ignorance...or both....

You are the EPITOME of an ignorant jackass. The Christian bible is horrible. Thing is, Christians these days aren't holding up the bible in the same way these radicals old up their prophet.

Even the moderates praise Muhammad. Muslims are the ones committing a majority of terror attacks.

They could have the worst book in the world and it wouldn't matter if shitheads weren't exploding themselves over it every other week.

Originally posted by Surtur
You are the EPITOME of an ignorant jackass. The Christian bible is horrible. Thing is, Christians these days are holding up the bible in the same way these radicals old up their prophet.

Even the moderates praise Muhammad. Muslims are the ones committing a majority of terror attacks,

Well if it's so bad, why did Trumpster give them $110 billion?

Originally posted by Lestov16
Well if it's so bad, why did Trumpster give them $110 billion?

Lol...what? Are you talking about the deal with Saudi Arabia? Cuz we were talking about Muslims and you come in with "why'd he give them so much money?!'. He didn't give Muslims as a whole money. Like I said, apparently the deal was with Saudi Arabia.

Let us say that somehow Trump was indeed magically going to give just Muslims in general a lot of money...I don't understand how that negates my above point.

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol...what? Are you talking about the deal with Saudi Arabia? Cuz we were talking about Muslims and you come in with "why'd he give them so much money?!'. He didn't give Muslims as a whole money. Like I said, apparently the deal was with Saudi Arabia.

Let us say that somehow Trump was indeed magically going to give just Muslims in general a lot of money...I don't understand how that negates my above point.

Your buddy funds radical terrorism. For someone so certain that Islam is horrid. You don't know dick about it.