Terror Attack London - Finsbury Park Mosque

Originally posted by Surtur
Interesting. So you do not believe Trump is Islamaphobic, correct?

I'm glad that narrative can be done away with then 🙂

Understand that these are not mutually exclusive with saying nice things amount Islam when diplomatically profitable, and that you only need to check dear Donald's Twitter account for a long and storied history of saying one thing and doing the other. 🙁

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i believe trump has said islamophobic things and attempted to pass islamophobic law. i also believe that trump has said some pro-islam things. probably because those are facts. but surt's one-dimensional forced narratives and tender feelz are more important than all that.

go on champ, hit me with another false dilemma.

Critical thinking isn't Surt's strong suit.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
👆

Critical thinking isn't Surt's strong suit.

Lol can you explain how what Bash just said was "critical thinking" ? He just danced around saying he was an outright Islamaphobe.

I was not asking if you believe Trump has said pro or negative. I asked if people thought he was Islamaphobic.

The answer, for Bash, is apparently no he is not. He's said some Islamaphobic things according to him, but isn't actually Islamaphobic.

Which again: totally goes against the current narrative being shoved down our throats.

Can someone explain why, if Trump apparently has said all these nice things about Islam, the left has completely ignored those things?

Originally posted by Surtur
Can someone explain why, if Trump apparently has said all these nice things about Islam, the left has completely ignored those things?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Nope never said that, he's either Islamaphobic himself, or sees Islamaphobia as something he can profit from, if not both.

Understand that these are not mutually exclusive with saying nice things amount Islam when diplomatically profitable, and that you only need to check dear Donald's Twitter account for a long and storied history of saying one thing and doing the other. 🙁

I understand, and that would mean either way Trump was attempting to manipulate SA. So I agree with you, if his goal was to manipulate them then yes his praising the faith as great makes total sense.

Surely you wouldn't be of the opinion he is just saying it's great as a way to bullshit and profit and yet still claim it makes sense merely because it adheres to the narrative you believe in, even if it's not something Trump truly believes.

There is nothing you lot can't make about Trump, is there?

Do we need a new law similar to Godwin's Law to describe this?

Originally posted by jaden101
There is nothing you lot can't make about Trump, is there?

Do we need a new law similar to Godwin's Law to describe this?

Just be glad Russia hasn't entered the narrative.

Yet.

But to be fair, this is less about Trump and more about lame attempts to zing me using Trump.

I'm the first thought on some of these peoples minds, even when a terror attack happens.

Originally posted by Surtur
I understand, and that would mean either way Trump was attempting to manipulate SA. So I agree with you, if his goal was to manipulate them then yes his praising the faith as great makes total sense.

Surely you wouldn't be of the opinion he is just saying it's great as a way to bullshit and profit and yet still claim it makes sense merely because it adheres to the narrative you believe in, even if it's not something Trump truly believes.

A member of the Flat Earth Society walks up to a group of people who accept the fact that the Earth is round as says "the Earth is round" so they won't laugh at him.

The Flat Earther does not believe the Earth is round, he is just trying to save face, but what he has said is still true and sense making.

Do you understand now?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
OK so it looks like we need examples:

A member of the Flat Earth Society walks up to a group of people who accept the fact that the Earth is round as says "the Earth is round" so they won't laugh at him.

The Flat Earther does not believe the Earth is round, he is just trying to save face, but what he has said is still true and sense making.

Do you understand now?

I understood even before that, what I'm saying is it's stupid bullshit. At least in your example the people would have no way of knowing the guy doesn't believe it's round. If they knew he didn't think it was round there is no reason to announce he "makes sense" because they ALL already believe the Earth is round. Also holy shit the earth being round is a FACT. We are in the realm of opinions with this.

But this essentially boils down to "Trump said something I most likely do not feel he truly believes, but I'll use it to claim he is finally 'making sense' now anyways because it fits my narrative".

Can you phrase it in a way that doesn't make you sound like you're grasping at straws? Thanks

PS: Use better examples in the future too, this one was stupid.

Originally posted by Surtur
Just be glad Russia hasn't entered the narrative.

Yet.

But to be fair, this is less about Trump and more about lame attempts to zing me using Trump.

I'm the first thought on some of these peoples minds, even when a terror attack happens.

Check you, NuQuan. 😂

Originally posted by Surtur
I understood even before that, what I'm saying is it's stupid bullshit. At least in your example the people would have no way of knowing the guy doesn't believe it's round. Also holy shit the earth being round is a FACT. We are in the realm of opinions with this.

But this essentially boils down to "Trump said something I most likely do not feel he truly believes, but I'll use it to claim he is finally 'making sense' now anyways because it fits my narrative".

Can you phrase it in a way that doesn't make you sound like you're grasping at straws? Thanks

PS: Use better examples in the future too, this one was stupid.

Am I supposed to laugh, or cry?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
>Fabricates a statement that was never said
>asks me to reword it so it makes sense for me to say it

Am I supposed to laugh, or cry?

I think you should cry, because I clearly said "it essentially boils down to". I wasn't saying you said those exact words, but it sure as hell seems like you think Trump is either an Islamaphobe or someone who bullshits about thinking it's great. Not sure how else to interpret "Nope never said that, he's either Islamaphobic himself, or sees Islamaphobia as something he can profit from, if not both. "

So indeed, cry 🙂

Right, so you admit to making up a narrative.

I think I'll laugh. 😂

Originally posted by jaden101
NuQuan. 😂

for all quan's obvious faults, i was shocked at the sensibility of his posts in this particular subforum.

still: LOL 😂

Originally posted by jaden101
Check you, NuQuan. 😂

I can almost see why Quan was so full of himself. It's almost flattering to be the first thought on a strangers mind when it comes to discussions about deadly attacks, etc.

Also funny too.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Right, so you admit to making up a narrative.

I think I'll laugh. 😂

I admit to boiling down your argument, but by all means, correct my narrative and explain what this means:

Nope never said that, he's either Islamaphobic himself, or sees Islamaphobia as something he can profit from, if not both.

If it doesn't mean what I took it as, explain.

It means exactly what it says mate, how long do you think I plan to entertain your idiocy? 😂

Originally posted by jaden101
There is nothing you lot can't make about Trump, is there?

Do we need a new law similar to Godwin's Law to describe this?

I'm just waiting for the eventual "Trump was manipulating Russia the whole time" claims if/when the Russia scandal burst like a puss filled boil on Trump's bloated ass.

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm just waiting for the eventual "Trump was manipulating Russia the whole time" claims if/when the Russia scandal burst like a puss filled boil on Trump's bloated ass.

Originally posted by snowdragon
I'm waiting for the trump was proven to soviet dick.

Huh?