Originally posted by Lestov16
But..but...Islam is supposed to be horrid 😆
But...but..Trumps supposed to be an Islamaphobe! Banning Muslims and shit.
Right Lest? That's the leftist narrative. Did you wanna squash that narrative? Or you could say you believe he is an Islamaphobe, which means you think he is lying. So you were trying to get a "gotcha" with something you think to be a lie.
Or again: you don't think it's a lie and thus do not feel Trump is Islamaphobic.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
see? he can't directly see or acknowledge the quote. his programming won't allow it.
Lol what is there to acknowledge? That Trump said something positive about this horrid religion?
So Bash: Is Trump Islamaphobic?
Cuz hey if he thinks it is the bee's knee's cool, I disagree with him. That's not the liberal narrative though.
EDIT: Admittedly I'm still confused at what the "gotcha" is supposed to be. Explain it, since I never said I agree with everything Trump says. If he thought it was good and I don't then...so? Is the implication that because Trump said it is true? Is the implication he's not an Islamaphobe like we've been lead to believe? Is the implication he lying?
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
experiment: do you see anything after this sentence besides blank white space and my sig?"One of world's great faiths." -Trump
Yes and again I will just copy and paste this:
Admittedly I'm still confused at what the "gotcha" is supposed to be. Explain it, since I never said I agree with everything Trump says. If he thought it was good and I don't then...so? Is the implication that because Trump said it, it is true? Is the implication he's not an Islamaphobe like we've been lead to believe? Is the implication he's lying? Is the implication at one time he wasn't an Islamaphobe, but he is now?
What do you feel you're saying, besides Trump at one time said it was great? Like I said if he still feels that way okay, I disagree with him. But the narrative from your side is he is an Islamaphobe.
So I am waiting for the "gotcha". Surely it isn't that I said the religion is horrid and Trump at one point said it was great? Even you are not that desperate.
In short: what do you feel you just proved about Islam?
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
all that flailing and crying because Glorious Leader contradicted your narrative. ❌
Wait, so for him to contradict my narrative would mean you truly feel he isn't an Islamaphobe. Don't let your liberal pals find out you're contradicting *their* narrative.
Still struggling to see though how me disagreeing with Trump on an issue is noteworthy.
Originally posted by Robtard
I like how Surtur's trying to turn Trump's flip-flopping, hypocrisy and blatant kowtowing to the Saudi King as some sort of loss to his dreaded "the liberals!".
I like how nobody has still explained why this is a "gotcha" for anyone but Trump.
I'm not trying to turn Trumps flip flops into anything. If he thinks the faith is great I disagree with him.
I think it's fair to bring up the narrative that he is Islamaphobic though. Since the only way this contradicts my narrative is if Bash believes the narrative presented by the left is wrong.
I also like how you brought up flip flopping, but it's a flip flop if the claim is now Trump isn't Islamaphobic. So did Bash seriously perhaps flip flop just to take a shot at a stranger online?
Or hell if you want to ignore the lefts narrative okay, someone still explain to me what this means as far as I, Surtur, am concerned. I never said I agree with Trump on everything. So if he disagree's with me, okay? What am I supposed to take from this other than Trump and I do not see eye to eye on everything? Which I already knew.
You've made it your standard that whenever Trump breaks a promise, flips on a stance, contradicts himself on an issue, your response is basically "meh, not an issue I cared about or voted on him for". Which I guess is the safe thing to do, especially with someone like Trump. But is it the brave thing to do?
Then again, Paul Ryan has already shown it's 'possible for a person to live a full life without a spine'.
Originally posted by Robtard
You've made it your standard that whenever Trump breaks a promise, flips on a stance, contradicts himself on an issue, your response is basically "meh, not an issue I cared about or voted on him for". Which I guess is the safe thing to do, especially with someone like Trump. But is it the brave thing to do?Then again, Paul Ryan has already shown it's 'possible for a person to live a full life without a spine'.
So wait, it's not the brave thing to do. But lying is? Do you want me to lie? Do you want me to say a major reason I voted for Trump was to put Hilary in jail? Would that make you feel better? It won't be the truth, but it seems to be the answer you are looking for. But you also said you prefer facts over feelings lol. But you either don't or you just do not accept them when they are given because it doesn't fir your narrative.
I also said if Trump truly believes this faith is "great" then I disagree with him.
But if you're going to talk about bravery, well, what about the claims Trump is an Islamaphobe? Are those suddenly gone? It's not just one thing people point to in order to say Trump doesn't like Muslims. Not to mention the left is always calling him a liar. So I guess I'm confused as to why the assumption wasn't merely he was bullshitting with what he said in SA? Which I'm also not saying is correct, but it at least fits into the narrative that is being pushed about Trump.
So I guess I will just ask you flat out: do you believe Trump is Islamaphobic?
i believe trump has said islamophobic things and attempted to pass islamophobic law. i also believe that trump has said some pro-islam things. probably because those are facts. but surt's one-dimensional forced narratives and tender feelz are more important than all that.
go on champ, hit me with another false dilemma.