Elijah Snow Vs Black Panther

Started by riv66725 pages

in general i just think dc has stayed more true. mostly because so many of their guys were overpowered already maybe? /shrug

Possibly, yeah.
DC characters have always been more powerful on average.

the whole thanos bump wasn't really an amp or anything just more facetime than what was necessary. they brought his stock down by oversaturation

^^^Oh god yes.
Starlin's Marty Sue.

I didn't see Panther as very cool back in his days as the Avengers token screw up:

Black Panther today is more like his first appearance:

Originally posted by staxamillion
the whole thanos bump wasn't really an amp or anything just more facetime than what was necessary. they brought his stock down by oversaturation

he went from getting knocked around by thing and thor to being unable to be ko'd by odin and easily knocking galactus on his a$$. any fan of thanos will tell you he's had multiple power ups since his 'return' and the oversaturation of the character, (thank god it's ebbed) was ridiculous.

didn't see Panther as very cool back in his days as the Avengers token screw up:
Black Panther today is more like his first appearance

My dislike doesnt completely come from Panther's rampant overpowering, it comes from his personality shifting from that of a basically nice guy to a raging douche nozzle.

👆 it's the combo for me.

Originally posted by leonidas
planetary's one of the best books to come up in the last bunch of decades imo. 👆

Yup 👆

Planetary is well thought out, easy to enjoy and has more than enough depth and references.

Snow FTW

Originally posted by leonidas
lol i do hate the character, no doubt about it. didn't used to. it's a combo of a few different things. really though, i've come to hate a lot of marvel characters--primarily they are the ones who all got ridiculous bumps for seemingly no reasons. iron fist--used to love him, can't stand him anymore. cage? used to think he was cool, now i can't stand him. thanos was the first REAL character i went from loving to hating. all were perfectly good characters who were given unnecessary pushes by marvel. i'm more of an 'if it's not broken don't fix it' kinda guy than an 'if it's not broken let's go ahead and give them crazy bumps in power and prestige' kinda guy. /shru
Originally posted by leonidas
hulk's another one for marvel. idiocy. for how many decades did we debate who was stronger ultimately, thor or hulk. and now you have hulk capable of what--collaterally destroying worlds?? vaporizing supposed enemies who were at one time able to battle him and yet, even at "10000x" their normal power they are less than nothing?? lol ridiculous. but that seems to be the thing at marvel. monica rambeau is next in line, easy to see that already. i really do hate the trend but even more, i don't understand it. if they were good characters to begin with, this approach should not be necessary.

So very true. BP, IF, Cage, Thanos, Hulk, Wolverine were all ones I used to like early on but came to find annoying or outright dislike for the same reasons. Too many unnecessary pushes and over the top bulls*** with them. X-characters, Monica, all of them. BP is just a douche. I still sometimes like (and want to like) IF and Wolverine (the real one) but tone it down a little Marvel I also hate Prestige because... Prestige.

Originally posted by leonidas
he went from getting knocked around by thing and thor to being unable to be ko'd by odin and easily knocking galactus on his a$$. any fan of thanos will tell you he's had multiple power ups since his 'return' and the oversaturation of the character, (thank god it's ebbed) was ridiculous.

I wasn't talking about thanos story overall just his last few years with over saturation. I always thought of thanos I guess how you see DC characters as meant to be OP or already OP so shrug

Originally posted by staxamillion
I wasn't talking about thanos story overall just his last few years with over saturation. I always thought of thanos I guess how you see DC characters as meant to be OP or already OP so shrug

The last few years results from the movie appearances and upcoming movie. That's only to be expected. Aside from that, any other push came about 27 years ago. That's an old push.

hence why i said he was the first i started to dislike. 👆

Now what is the issue with Cage and Monica? Heck, what is the issue with Iron Fist?

Anyone have a problem with Storm, Blue Marvel, Miss America or Falcon? There are a couple of posters who seem negative toward Blue Marvel and some who don't like The Ultimates.

monica is still cool in my book and deserved to have her powers explored a little more closely. cosmic awareness now though? casual mention of her being able to destroy a planet? why? she was very cool already. does everyone need to be able to destroy a planet? i don't mind bm either but the ultimates in general i do not like at all-- i still read the book though, but often as not i'm rooting for them to get their a$$es kicked. very pretentious as a group and ms america doesn't help. seriously--THEY solve the problem of galactus?? reed and tony have faced him how many times? and galactus himself, with his knowledge, his equipment, his cosmic awareness, yet a group of humans evolve him? wtf? galactus is among the smartest beings in the universe but he couldn't figure out a way to solve his own issue, the ultimates had to? yeah, not buying it. even the ease with which they took thanos out twice didn't sit well with me. some interesting situations though, and a way to keep abreast of cosmic shenanigans in marvel, hence why i read it still. /shrug

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Now what is the issue with Cage and Monica? Heck, what is the issue with Iron Fist?

Anyone have a problem with Storm, Blue Marvel, Miss America or Falcon? There are a couple of posters who seem negative toward Blue Marvel and some who don't like The Ultimates.


All those characters are great, great, great, okay, great, good, good, respectively.
Its BP that sucks. 👆

Seems like people just hate the way Black Panther has been handled. Can't really hate Black Panther. It's like hating Chadwick Boseman for portraying the character. Boseman hasn't done anything wrong.

Nope, dont hate Boseman, just BP.
It'll be the first MCU movie i wont watch.

Originally posted by riv6672
Nope, dont hate Boseman, just BP.
It'll be the first MCU movie i wont watch.

No, what I'm saying is there's nothing wrong with TChalla. Just that writers have taken him in a direction you disagree with.

And if you decide not to see the Black Panther flick that's fine. It's your loss.

It was my loss when they changed BPs entire personality years ago.
Its all good.

yep. and if they change him back, or some writer does something cool with him, i'll probably like him again. 👆