Possible massive voter fraud America: Up to 5.7 million noncitizens voted in 2008

Started by Stigma2 pages

Possible massive voter fraud America: Up to 5.7 million noncitizens voted in 2008

Very interesting info:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/

As many as 5.7 million noncitizens may have voted in the 2008 election, which put Barack Obama in the White House.

Another source:

http://www.wnd.com/2017/06/new-study-bolsters-trumps-claim-of-rampant-vote-fraud/

A new study has concluded that as many as 5.7 million noncitizens may have voted in the 2008 election won by Barack Obama, giving credence to President Trump’s much-maligned claim that more than 3 million illegal-alien voters cost him the nationwide popular vote last November.

A research group in New Jersey, Just Facts, announced it found that after examining post-election polling data, the number of noncitizens voting illegally in U.S. elections is likely far greater than previous estimates, the Washington Times reported.

Surely it must be wrong, illegals do not vote.

Even if we assume that these numbers are accurate, which is a pretty big assumption since there are problems with how they came to this conclusion, noted here - http://www.snopes.com/illegal-immigrants-2008-election/ - there is a huge discrepancy in the numbers listed.

"Just Facts’ analysis of the same Harvard polling data estimated that as many as 7.9 million noncitizens were illegally registered that year and 594,000 to 5.7 million voted."

600k-6 million is a pretty enormous margin of difference.

World Net Daily is a total joke.

But it's true! Just check my sources:

http://biasedmediawithoutcitation.org

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
But it's true! Just check my sources:

http://biasedmediawithoutcitation.org

The Southern Poverty Law Center has designated WorldNetDaily as an anti-government extremist group that "peddles in white nationalism" and is a source of "conspiracy theories, gay-bashing, anti-Muslim propaganda, and End Times prophecy."

In 2008, WorldNetDaily agreed to pay an out-of-court settlement in a libel suit brought by Clark Jones for knowingly publishing false claims about him, including that he had interfered with a criminal investigation, was the subject of a criminal investigation, had ties to criminal activity, and was a drug dealer.

WorldNetDaily gained notoriety for repeatedly publicizing birther conspiracy theories that Barack Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen, that his long-form birth certificate is counterfeit, and that he is not eligible to serve as President of the United States.

Anyone with a functioning brain can see that WorldNetDaily is not a legitimate news source.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
World Net Daily is a total joke.

No need to get angry.

BTW That is why the first source cited is Washington Times 👆 WND cite them.

@BackFire (cannot quote via quote botton somehow)


600k-6 million is a pretty enormous margin of difference.

That is why it says *up* to 5.7 million. To be sure it can be 1 million, 2 million, 4.5 milllion etc etc...

I'm positve that you think any number of non-citizens voting in the US is unacceptable, really. Even the smallest amount from that study is still a massive group that skewed the election results. 👆

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The Southern Poverty Law Center has designated WorldNetDaily as an anti-government extremist group that "peddles in white nationalism" and is a source of "conspiracy theories, gay-bashing, anti-Muslim propaganda, and End Times prophecy."

In 2008, WorldNetDaily agreed to pay an out-of-court settlement in a libel suit brought by Clark Jones for knowingly publishing false claims about him, including that he had interfered with a criminal investigation, was the subject of a criminal investigation, had ties to criminal activity, and was a drug dealer.

WorldNetDaily gained notoriety for repeatedly publicizing birther conspiracy theories that Barack Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen, that his long-form birth certificate is counterfeit, and that he is not eligible to serve as President of the United States.

Anyone with a functioning brain can see that WorldNetDaily is not a legitimate news source.

the SPLC also deemed the OK hand symbol a White Nationalist symbol...

CNN has payed out for libel lawsuits

Ok? He kinda brought it on himself in the same way Trump's taxes have created all kinds of conspiracies.

Lol

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
the SPLC also deemed the OK hand symbol a White Nationalist symbol...

😂

"lol u mad. therefore world nut daily is a valid source"

The world net daily may or may not be a valid source, but the southern poverty law center is a pretty shit source to back that claim up with.

Like you tried to call into question the validity of a source... by citing an even less valid source.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
The world net daily may or may not be a valid source, but the southern poverty law center is a pretty shit source to back that claim up with.

Like you tried to call into question the validity of a source... by citing an even less valid source.

The Southern Poverty Law Center is the premiere organization monitoring extremist groups in the United States, and its work is considered reliable by law enforcement agencies and the FBI.

trying to discredit southern poverty law center. you clowns never fail to lower the bar. 👆
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/southern-poverty-law-center/

inb4 attempted discrediting of mediabiasfactcheck

I especially love the narrative that if it's an illegal vote, then it must have been cast to the Democrat.

The one case of confirmed voter fraud (unless more have come out?) in the 2016 election was by a woman in Iowa who voted twice for Trump because she believed the fake stories from Trump and company. Oh Trumpers...

Originally posted by Stigma
No need to get angry.

BTW That is why the first source cited is Washington Times 👆 WND cite them.

[b]@BackFire (cannot quote via quote botton somehow)

That is why it says *up* to 5.7 million. To be sure it can be 1 million, 2 million, 4.5 milllion etc etc...

I'm positve that you think any number of non-citizens voting in the US is unacceptable, really. Even the smallest amount from that study is still a massive group that skewed the election results. 👆 [/B]

Yes, non-citizens should not be vote. However, thankfully, this current figure seems to be one that was pulled out of their ass using shaky math and assumptions.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
trying to discredit southern poverty law center. you clowns never fail to lower the bar. 👆
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/southern-poverty-law-center/

inb4 attempted discrediting of mediabiasfactcheck


Look at the actual votes in the poll. The majority of voters consider SPLC to be 'extreme left'.

I mean, I think this claim about the illegals voting is most likely bullshit, but the southern poverty law center is pretty shit.

They called Kekistan a white nationalist hate meme even though it's a meme making fun of all forms of identity politics... clearly not doing their research, they called the okay hand sign a white supremacist symbol, and they put Maajid Nawaz on a list of anti-muslim extremists.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I mean, I think this claim about the illegals voting is most likely bullshit, but the southern poverty law center is pretty shit.

because reasons, right?

cause they hate ma memes!

So this tale ends with every single alien having voted for Obama and later every single one not doing the same for Trump. Lol

That's so well thought-out I don't even know what to say. 👆