No real boxer should be fouled to the level that drove Mashiba to the Edge against Sawamura though, it's just referees on the Ippo-verse suck balls. He should at least offer some point deductions to Iga for headbutting that much.
Did Mashiba ever try to cheat againt Ippo or Kimura? I don't think fouls are a current go to strategy for him to use
Originally posted by Bentley
No real boxer should be fouled to the level that drove Mashiba to the Edge against Sawamura though, it's just referees on the Ippo-verse suck balls. He should at least offer some point deductions to Iga for headbutting that much.Did Mashiba ever try to cheat againt Ippo or Kimura? I don't think fouls are a current go to strategy for him to use
Kimura, he saw as a chunk of meat. I think he was too stunned at how Kimura stepped up to cheat.
Ippo, I believe he did attempt a foul or two. They were simply ineffective fouls.
And there's no real question on how he moved to the Rookie King finals. If it was an accidential foul, he sure isn't apologetic about it.
You're right about the ref's kind of letting things go for way too long, though. It's funny how everyone in the audience spots this stuff, the corners see it, and the one closest never sees a thing.
Man, Volg is ridiculously overhyped on Reddit forums and such.
The fact is, we've never, ever seen him use outboxing. Ever. The Mike Elliott match didn't show that at all. I bet Sendou (Who did pretty good in that one fight, considering he didn't even have his sprint yet) , Mashiba, or Sawamura (Not Miyata) would push him harder then people think, if Mori ever wrote those.
I mean, I love the character, and acknowledge he was severely handicapped vs Eliott, yet still pulled it out. Mike's also fairly featless, and we really have no idea of the level of competition in the states.. (In real life, you get gold and turds, depending on division or era)
It's true that for all the hype Volg gets we have never seen him outboxing effectively vs anyone. Technically speaking he must've outboxed Sendou for the majority of the match, since they made it to decisión and Sendou was certainly trying to get in and felt effective enough once he entered close range. I think Mori is partially to blame because he hasn't presented special shifts and most of the trademark techniques are close range.
I think Mike Elliot is implied to be an smaller champion by the fact he is presented as someone who got beat in the Olympics. Also he and the other top rankers were ducking Volg for several months, so the competition in his weight class must not be great.
Mashiba has only shown to foul when he's rather desperate. Against Ippo he had a broken elbow and against Miyata it's not clear whether his fouls were on purpose. The Sawamura match was a special circumstance due to their personal history. Unlike other boxers I don't see him pulling fouls as their strategy nor doing it for the lols like Ryuhei.
I don't know where this series is going, with Ippo retired and now we're focusing on side characters going up in the world. Each of Mashiba punches on Iga were to strong, in real life, someone would of went down with those hits.
Hopefully this fight motivates Ippo again, but I'm positive he's going to be a trainer and a spectator for a while.
Well, Iga is exceptionally tough because of his size, being a natural born lightweight, unlike Mashiba who's still relatively below his true weight.
Plus whatever Marron did to achieve the "emotions off" state.
But yeah, HnI has been about side characters for awhile now, over Ippo himself. He's mostly a point of view character for other peoples stories.
Looks like Mashiba thought his punch's were weak, so specifically requested someone who could take a ton of damage, and put his punch power to the test.
And now, on to the world. Finally, something might actually happen for a change.
Maybe they'll move up Miyata. Mashiba practically foreshadowed it, by hinting he was one of his weaknesses that Marron missed.
http://hni-scantrad.com/eng/lel/?manga=Hajime+no+Ippo&chapter=Chapter+1263#page=1
http://hni-scantrad.com/eng/lel/?manga=Hajime+no+Ippo&chapter=Chapter+1264#page=1
I think I've enjoyed Hajime No Ippo a lot more then Baki the Grappler. But it's an interesting comparison, because Baki is the anti Ippo.. He makes actual progress after every arc. He gets the girl, he remembers what he learns, he grows as a fighter, and he eventually gets strong enough to take on the world champion.
Yet I enjoyed Ippo in ways I can not say the same about Baki, despite its stagnant main character arc. Except when they do something like these past few chapters. Seeing Ippo get nostalgic for the ring, seeing Kimura and Kamogawa's reaction, and not being sure if this even means anything, or if it will lead to nothing at all, is a pretty hard thing to read. You almost get the sense that Ippo is doomed to regret something he can never take back, because there is no way someone like Kamogawa would EVER let him go back on a promise. Not one he made to others, or one he made to himself. That just isn't who he is, as a character.
But who knows, maybe Ippo gets so desperate he ends up with Marron? Nah, that's not his style either... I think.
At least we have Takamura finally moving up a weight class, assuming this isn't the time Mori decides to pull the trigger on his impending tragedy.
http://hni-scantrad.com/eng/lel/?manga=Hajime+no+Ippo&chapter=Chapter+1265#page=1
I have a really bad feeling about this one. The guys name is GOAT, for crying out loud.