Corran Horn & Kyp Durron vs Ahsoka and Vader [Force only]

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Originally posted by MythLord
To be fair, Caedus also gave Luke bad dreams.

No. Luke thought Caedus was giving him bad dreams, only to realize it was Krayt all along. 👆

Originally posted by NewGuy01
No. Luke thought Caedus was giving him bad dreams, only to realize it was Krayt all along. 👆

Nah, it was revealed to be Jacen in the very same novel; and it wouldn't make sense in the context of the novel for that to be Krayt.

Siiiiigh... You're actually going to make me look for this. Alright, one second... Anddd here you go:

I can. It was a voice that Luke felt rather than heard, a darkness that pulled at him from behind. And I will.

Luke turned to find the form of a shadow-wrapped human approaching from the shore by which Luke had entered the water, the same shore by which all mortals came to the Lake of Apparitions. The silhouette was tall and broad-shouldered, with a head hooded in darkness and glowing eyes that never seemed to match colors, that went from brown to orange and yellow to blue, that sometimes grew dark as ebony and seemed to be not there at all. As the silhouette drew nearer, it began to resemble a man Luke had seen many years before, a man who had appeared only in his dreams-and always shortly before he awoke feeling uneasy and frightened.

Luke glanced back at Mara, then said, "It's him."

"Who?"

"The man I kept seeing in my dreams, before Jacen turned Sith."

Mara looked confused. "But the man in your dreams was Jacen."

"I thought so," Luke replied. "Who else could it have been?"

He turned back to the figure and saw that the cloaking shadows had coalesced into a suit of dark, spiked armor. The newcomer's right arm seemed a mere ghost, as though he had only a holographic projection where there should have been a limb. And his left eye had become an empty white circle that looked more like a window into another universe than an actual organ. His face was weathered and chiseled, though-with a web of tattoos radiating outward from an angry gaze and deeply etched scowl-he could not be considered handsome. He stopped three paces away and stood staring, as though trying to decide whether to attack Luke or speak to him.

--FotJ: Apocalypse

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Mr Fantastic called, and he wants his arm back for all that reaching you're doing.
u tell that little ***** Fantastic that if he wants his arm back he can call me like a man instead of going thru u.

Anywho, if u have a different interpretation of the text I'm all ears.

Originally posted by Kjam
I beg you to justify this statement here...

1.They literally trolled him with a worthless holocron because they weren't impressed, they merely used him to draw the attention of the Jedi away from themselves.

2.Jacen sees what Krayt would have become if he didn't do something, which terrified him and he goes on to tell Luke and Ben how shit scared they should be.

3.Luke himself, whilst not the most credible source, had Krayt as his equal in the balance of the Force. Whilst not exactly a statement of genuine parity, one must keep in mind that Luke has absolutely no illusions about his ability to kick Caedus' sh!t in, if not for the threat of dark side corruption.

The implications for Krayt > Caedus are very strong, though they are not concrete.

Corran is a weak link here.

Ahsoka doesn't use lightning or anything like that, and she could just tool him with telekinesis. Composite Vader is enough to hold off Kyp or beat him

Originally posted by carthage
Corran is a weak link here.

Ahsoka doesn't use lightning or anything like that, and she could just tool him with telekinesis.

I don't think this is completely true. Corran uses energy to redirect it as he wishes. Telekinesis has energy. Kyp used it against Corran once and Corran was quickly working to turn it into his advantage, iirc.

Yeah, he did. That was a bit of a bizarre outlier though.

was there context?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
was there context?

It was when Luke was exiled, and the remaining Masters were arguing over what to do about...Dahlia, I believe. Tensions got high and there was a small fight between Corran, Kyp and I think Kenth in a hangar.

I don't think it's an outlier; Corran just wasn't highlighted a lot, or his unique ability wasn't. What I said about his ability redirecting energy and telekinesis being energy is true. If there was no energy, it wouldn't move anything.

In the Jedi Academy trilogy Corran redirected heat from a spring that would have otherwise killed all the future masters, including Kyp and Luke.

In the corran/kyp/kenth situation corran and kyp were arguing and kyp suprise attacked him, then kenth did it to kyp in return. Both were suprise attacks and werent being defended against.

"He flicked his wrist, and Corran went sailing across the hangar back toward Kenth and the other Jedi. It was a particularly insulting dismissal, since Corran could not respond in kind, having never been able to master the skill of Force telekinesis.

The same was not true of Kenth Hamner. He extended his arm, and Kyp flew back against the hull of his StealthX and remained there, pinned."

kyp also attacked corran when they were both students at the academy, and corran was able to absorb a powerful attack from kyp and turn it into a shield.

"Kyp struck at me again through the Force, but I expected it this time. I relaxed and let the Force energy flow over and through me. I absorbed enough of it to let me create a shield that split the attack. The fact that I didn't end up being ground back against the wall surprised him."

"Even though I braced myself for another attack, it did no good. Kyp's previous Force blows were like light breezes compared with a full-out gale. I slammed back into the wall with a teeth-rattling impact. As my body absorbed Force energy and fed it back out, the shield I'd created grew in size. More importantly, my surprise and survival instinct opened me up to the Force and allowed it to flow into the shield."

But when kun started to help kyp he was able to over powre corran.

"I hesitated because kyps words seemed to echo within themselves. It took me a second or two to figure out that the echo wasn't a purely auditory phenomenon. I was hearing kyps voice through my ears, but the undertones were coming to me through the force. We were not alone, which meant kyps mentor had come to aid his apprentice.

This is probably his best absorbtion feat, from early in his training. Hes in a large warehouse wired with the following-

"i was looking at merr-sonn munitions lx-1 laser flechette mines all poimted in my direction. when detonated, the panels would abosorb the energy from the explosives and the laser diodes would spray out clouds of laser bolts. To complicate matters, the mine usually had a three meter backblast of pure explosive fire, which would feed into the chemical drums Id passed on my way in. That would trigger subsidiary explosions that would make quiet a mess" "I glanced up above the spotlight, and caught the blinking of another LX-1."

"I sank within myself, touched the force, started it flowing, and sucked in every stray erg being sprayed on my direction. I felt sting after sting, as if I were sliding through a sarlaccs gullet, and it felt as if I were desending into a black pit of pain. I directed some of the force to help me blunt the pain, but that made it much more difficult to hold onto all of the power I was absorbing.

I knew I couldn't hang onto it for long, and I knew I needed to use it to contain the explosions deadly force. As I had done in the grotto to save Tionne, I channeled all of it into telekinesis and raised my left hand. I twisted my wrist, stareted the energy swirling into a votrtex. I could feel the air begin to whirl around me, tighting, quicking flames from the chemical fires leapted toward the center of the room, spinning themselves into the vortex. Loose debris, flaming bits of duraplaste and rattling, clattering pieces of strap metal flew into air, filling the fiery cyclone with dark specks.

I pushed and drove the vortex up and out thru the roof, enlarging the hole the last mine had aready opened. chemical drums sailed up, exploding as they went, pulsing green and purple fire thru the rising funnel. flames wreathed me and i sucked their heat in, then vented it back out, building the firestorms strength until it ripped the warehouses roof off and crumpled it like a discarded piece of flimiplast.

the warehouses doors banged open, then ripped free and flew like sabacc cards into the maelstrom. the warehouses viewports imploded as air rushed in to feed the firestorm. i no longer needed to push, it had become a thing of its own, almost living, certainly beathing. i felt it tug at me, but the energy it fed me kept me rooted in place. i reached ou with my mind, pitching up into the column of fire the last several unexploded chemical drums, watched them blossom briliantly, then smiled. the explosion had been contained, drwwn inward. hough the warehouses corrugated metal walls glowed dully from the heat, they had not buckled. the tremors, from the explosion had rippled out thru the ground, but beyond that- and the fiery spear thrust into the sky- only the warehouse would be damaged by the hutts deathtrap."

i dont feel like finding the quote for this one, but he also absorbed all the heat from a geyser erupting to protect tionne from it and then used the energy he absorbed to lift her out with tk. iirc

Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
It was when Luke was exiled, and the remaining Masters were arguing over what to do about...Dahlia, I believe. Tensions got high and there was a small fight between Corran, Kyp and I think Kenth in a hangar.

No, I'm sure it was either in Dark Apprentice or I, Jedi.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
No, I'm sure it was either in Dark Apprentice or I, Jedi.

Corran and Kyp have had more than one scuffle. When Kenth was involved, it was LOTF or FOTJ when they were all masters.

Thanks for the passage, Raptor.

...right, but in only one of them did he pull off the feat you alluded to. 😬

Yep. He can make use of TK energy as well.

Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
Thanks for the passage, Raptor.

U'r welcome