MJJ v.s. Legion v.s. Franklin

The bios are referring to Fury's adaption powers. However the point is, was there any proof that Fury was completely immune to Jaspers' powers at the end of their fight (when they were in the void)? Because that's the deciding factor here. We know that the fury was able to adapt to MJJ but did it reach the point where it was completely immune (which enabled it to kill MJJ) or was it the fact that Jaspers' powers do not work in the void? (i recall the handbook actually mentioning that he is powerless in the void but i have to recheck). I personally interpreted it as the latter.

I am confident that Fury was immune to his warp, yes. The battle itself is indicative of such, and the bios support it. That's why MJJ stopped trying to directly warp Fury, and resorted to physically brawling with it instead -- hyper-adaption was Fury's thing. 👆

If MJJ's powers did indeed work in the void, Fury wouldn't have resorted to bfring MJJ into the void, it would have dealt with MJJ inside the reality they were battling in. And the reason it was able to kill him is literally attributed to MJJ unable to use his powers there. To me the implication was quite clear that MJJ's powers are useless in the void even against the opponent.

The answer is simple: Fury knew it was immune to MJJ's warp, and also knew MJJ could not create ex nihilo. Thus it [correctly] deduced that Jaspers would be entirely powerless in un-space(which, again, was merely the void left over from the nullification of universe-238.) That's why Jaspers was powerless in un-space: no clay to mold whatsoever... Not even Fury was susceptible to his influence at that point.

Now, had someone been present that wasn't immune to his warp(which is pretty much ANYONE not named "Fury"😉, Jaspers obviously could have manipulated him/her without issue... But that clearly was not the case.

It's not as though un-space emits some sort of 'dampening field' that renders MJJ powerless or w/e. It just represents a place where his powers simply cannot work, because it's just that: a blank slate with no reality to manipulate. Nothing special about it at all.

Originally posted by Galan007
Multiversal.

But that doesn't matter here, as the combatants are confined to universal. It's all about whose warp is more potent.

Per OP stips, the scope of the combatants is restricted to universe-level.

TY for pointing out.

Then I favor Legion followed by Franklin, and MJJ in last place.

Anyhow out of the 3, I find MJJ realty warping powers the most limiting as he is the only one who is unable to create from nothing (EX-NIHILO). His ability to warp is based on psychokinesis, which explains why he can only reshape existing matter. The danger he presents are his progressive growth in his increase, there was no upper limits to its range. As time progressed his ability to warp reality would threaten neighboring universes with the threat to plunge Multiverse/Omniverse into chaos. Limiting the field, limits that potential threat.

Franklins powers are not as limiting as he can both manipulate and create from nothing. His cosmic awareness gives insight, and extra psionic powers to fall back on like teleportation. Out of the 3 he may be the weakest but since the cap is universal, he is in the right weight class, since the other two a nerfed his level.

Legion has several types of reality warps. He even says he has different personalities, each with their own way to bend reality in X-Men Legacy. That’s beside the point, I get it, the focus is always feats. And in his showing we have seen him manipulate matter, move matter from one to another, merge realities via probability, and create from noting (EX-Nihilo).

The one point that would need to be cleared is if even if Legion is nerfed to universal showings would he keep stamina/juice of being a Multiversal warper. If the answer is yes, then he would be my definitive choice. If the answer is no, Legion would deal Jaspers and Franklin the way he dealt with the Elder Gods he would re-write reality onto a backup, and wipe out in the processes. The problem is he would exhaust himself, and while this could be permanent solution to deal with Jaspers, I can see Franklin easily recover, return, and pick him apart.

Interesting.

So you think Franklin is a better all-around reality manipulator than MJJ? And is there any particular reason you have Legion above them in that regard?

Originally posted by Galan007
Interesting.

So you think Franklin is a better all-around reality manipulator than MJJ? And is there any particular reason you have Legion above them in that regard?

MJJ can manipulate matter, and is all powerful within his warp.

Same with Franklin with the added bonus of being all powerful onto himself and creating something from nothing.

Legion can do what Franklin and Jaspers does, on top of being able to manipulate probability and merge timelines to create a new outcome.