Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
She didn't blitz him, she specifically mentioned using her powers to outthink him because he was faster. She simply attacked first which makes no sense but people have been doing it against the Flash for literally decades.
Blitzing = attacking before your opponent can react, in my book.
And yes Still,even Batgod was power less before her. This shows her Uber ness.
Originally posted by vansonbee
Storm can shoot lightning from her hands now? This is new to me, what about you guys? 50/50 chance for storm to win?https://s7d4.turboimg.net/sp/d592576cd6bc5cd00559c73d5a4d68ce/X-Men_-_Gold_2017-_007-013.jpg
She always could... it's just that the kind she summons from the sky is more powerful, afaik.
Anyway, Mera is just some cheap flavor of the week. Sad times that people actually take interest in Aquaman's cumdumpster 😂
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusSuperman is by far the strongest member, but both he and WW should really be able to get through those water constructs quite easily given all the other things they've done.
She beat the Flash with a quick thinking application of her powers. Storm could easily suck the air out of his lungs instead. I'd argue Superman is the strongest and in a team setting everyone jobs.
Green Lanterns I might give a pass on because they are rookies, but an experienced Lantern shouldn't have problems.
As for Flash, a Flash going all out would blitz characters like this before so much as a synapse had fired in their brain at the start of the fight, none of this "I'll counter his speed by using my powers to etc. etc." nonsense that seems to happen all the time with Flash. He's far beyond the speed of thought.
Truth is, yeah everyone jobs or holds back quite a bit in a team setting and when a character is getting a push. Frankly comics are always full of PIS, CIS, and illogical stuff in fights. And by making their characters so damn insanely powerful because of writers pushing their characters and one-upping each other, DC (and increasingly Marvel) paint themselves into a corner when they have to do fights like this.
That said I'd give Mera a majority over Storm depending on the setting, but Storm can get in some wins.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If all you need is a water bubble to hold off Superman/Wonder Woman
Superman and WW DID break out of the construct anyway, they only held them for a few minutes. What was impressive about it was how durable she can make them vs mundane lantern constructs.
Exactly. Superman, and Wonder Woman to a lesser extent, have planetary+ level strength feats. Mera being able to contain both of them *while* fighting multiple herald-level beings at the same time means that she's currently at least high-trans level. I'm sure she will get depowered quite fast and quite a lot now that she's joined the Justice League but unless otherwise indicated we use the current versions of the characters in the vs threads.
Mera stomps.
Originally posted by Galan007
Storm attempting to 'flash-freeze' Mera probably wouldn't be a good call. Freezing requires ice. Ice = h20 = ambient water in the atmosphere for Mera to control, like zop said.
It worked pretty well for the Dead King who was able to ko Mera with just snow and wind. Storm has an excellent shot here far from a stomp for Mera lol.
Originally posted by SupermutantEh, wut?
It worked pretty well for the Dead King who was able to ko Mera with just snow and wind. Storm has an excellent shot here far from a stomp for Mera lol.
a.) The Dead King's aquakinesis is extremely powerful, and simply beyond Mera's -- as stated on panel.
b.) The Dead King was also a very powerful mage(he alone forged all of the Atlantean Tridents, for example), and his ice had a very potent magical quality to it as well.
IOW, acting like Storm's flash-freeze equates to an auto-win, simply because Mera was beaten by The Dead King's ice, isn't going to fly. Storm is certainly not a superior aquakinetic, nor is she a high-end mage. 🙂
Originally posted by carver9I'd rather not speculate.
Also, question Galan. Was Flash using the upper limits of his speed against mera?
What I do know for sure is that Flash was attempting to blitz Mera -- he was trying to end the threat. Despite this, Mera was still able to perceive/react fast enough to neutralize him. That's huge. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
Eh, wut?a.) The Dead King's aquakinesis is extremely powerful, and simply beyond Mera's -- as stated on panel.
1. Not relevant to your position that Mera being flash freeze isn't a good call when she has already been defeated that way.
Originally posted by Galan007
b.) The Dead King was also a very powerful mage(he alone forged all of the Atlantean Tridents, for example), and his ice had a very potent magical quality to it as well.
2. lol Do we know the difference if any between the Dead King "magical" snow and normal snow? Plus if you actually look at the second scan it was the concussive force from the winds that koed her, not the winter wonderland.
Originally posted by Galan007
IOW, acting like Storm's flash-freeze equates to an auto-win, simply because Mera was beaten by The Dead King's ice, isn't going to fly. Storm is certainly not a superior aquakinetic, nor is she a high-end mage. 🙂
IOW Storm is a superior elemental so acting like Mera being aquakinetic is an auto-win simply isn't going to fly. Especially since Black Manta was able to block Mera's ability to take one's water from their body with just bioelectricity.
Originally posted by Galan007
Lol, so now Storm's ice attacks and aquakinesis are on par with the Dead King?
Storm's ice attacks and aquakinesis doesn't have to be equal to the Dead King to defeat Mera. Storm has a natural counter to Mera's aquakinesis in bioelectricity and electrolysis. Plus she has other ways to win like with gale force winds or shutting down the electrical impulses in a brain like with Mr Sinister.
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeeeah, I think this discussion is over. It's clear what your agenda is. 🙂
😂 Ok so I disagree with you therefore I have an agenda?
Because I have seen Storm amplify heat with her temp control completely evaporating Hydro-man, or extracting additional moisture from the air on her own to amp her power.
Storm, who can not only create extreme sub-zero temps, but can also increase the temperature to create extreme heat, has manipulated greater amounts of moisture over a greater range, has manipulated hydrogen atoms directly, has shown the ability to control ocean currents the same way she does wind, and can induce snow, blizzards, fog, freezing rains storms,etc. through her moisture and temp control or combo of them. This is in addition to what she has done and potentially could do with the other elements and energies that fall under her control (electrical, em fields, and wind), plus some adhoc abilities and various combinations with her powers.
Yep my agenda is boss. Because I refuse to let an obvious Jobber League encounter override 40+ years of Storm's feats.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Quoting to make it easier for someone to quote mine. Abhilegend will dig this I'm sure
Thanks, hope carv sees it too 👆
As to the bioelectricity, don't forget, BM already had it up as his suit (not to mention, he had prepped specifically for it):
Unless Storm suddenly walks around with a bioelectric shield already up, or knows that that is how she can counter hydrokinesis....not sure how this is a defense?
I've never heard a proper explanation for this and I'd like to hear some input on the matter. That good speed feat for Mera, is it now applicable to any and all threads she's in? Because that was the flash, there is no one faster. Wouldn't she then in theory, be too much for any hero? Couldn't she one shot Superman? After all, she outreacted the flash and essentially has an attack that can't be countered.
There's no intended snarkyness, it's the same issue that gets repeated all the time over the forums. Like, how in theory no one under flash should be able to tag Superman, yet when he does get tagged and its brought up, it kind of gets dismissed as good looking story telling. When then, is this not the same? Just cool story telling?
