Storm vs. Mera

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thanks, hope carv sees it too 👆

As to the bioelectricity, don't forget, BM already had it up as his suit (not to mention, he had prepped specifically for it):

Unless Storm suddenly walks around with a bioelectric shield already up, or knows that that is how she can counter hydrokinesis....not sure how this is a defense?

lol Because she has done it herself. She has applied this not only to herself but to others. And she sees energy everytime she uses her powers that why her eyes goes white. So she perceives the world in terms of energy, and can understand plus manipulate that.

http://i.imgur.com/e3LANm3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/jTPUzvw.jpg

Its pretty laughable that the counter to Storm's defense against Mera's hydrokinesis is that Storm doesn't know how to use her powers. 😆

Originally posted by Damborgson
I've never heard a proper explanation for this and I'd like to hear some input on the matter. That good speed feat for Mera, is it now applicable to any and all threads she's in? Because that was the flash, there is no one faster. Wouldn't she then in theory, be too much for any hero? Couldn't she one shot Superman? After all, she outreacted the flash and essentially has an attack that can't be countered.

There's no intended snarkyness, it's the same issue that gets repeated all the time over the forums. Like, how in theory no one under flash should be able to tag Superman, yet when he does get tagged and its brought up, it kind of gets dismissed as good looking story telling. When then, is this not the same? Just cool story telling?

It's the same as Proxima Midnight and Spectrum. When we later see Black Panther et al outreact them.

Originally posted by Supermutant
lol Because she has done it herself. She has applied this not only to herself but to others. And she sees energy everytime she uses her powers that why her eyes goes white. So she perceives the world in terms of energy, and can understand plus manipulate that.

http://i.imgur.com/e3LANm3.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/40042/4402192-shaping+air+an+bubble+%28manipulate+water+current%29+1.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/40042/4402193-shaping+air+an+bubble+%28manipulate+water+current%29+2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jTPUzvw.jpg

Its pretty laughable that the counter to Storm's defense against Mera's hydrokinesis is that Storm doesn't know how to use her powers. 😆

Right.

So all your scans show is Storm consciously activating it before it can be used.

IOW, she doesn't have it on at all times. She has to activate it. NOBODY said she doesn't know how to use her powers. Please stop misunderstanding me.

Does she activate it when against Iceman, for example? Does she defend against telepathy using her bioelectric aura? No? Then why does she suddenly think A-ha, I have never met this person before, but will break her (obvious!) telepathic link using my bio field!!

IOW, she has to activate it. BM does NOT have to activate it - his suit has it by default, as he knows of Mera and her hydrokinesis.

And in a quick draw battle, between Storm thinking 'bio field, ACTIVATE!' and Mera thinking 'Water rip!', who do you think is faster?

Hint: there's a scan of Mera doing it to a blitzing Flash.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's the same as Proxima Midnight and Spectrum. When we later see Black Panther et al outreact them.

What does that do for battle board purposes though?

Edit: Though I'm starting to think that there isn't necessarily a proper answer.

Originally posted by Damborgson
What does that do for battle board purposes though?

Edit: Though I'm starting to think that there isn't necessarily a proper answer.

There isn't. Comics aren't written for battleboard purposes.

If tomorrow, writers wanted to show Batman throwing down with WW, they can and they will.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
There isn't. Comics aren't written for battleboard purposes.

If tomorrow, writers wanted to show Batman throwing down with WW, they can and they will.

Obviously not. But we're not a comic book are we? We're on a battleboard and the questions in my original post are pertinent.

Does Mera get the one shot on any and all now? Where is the average?

We'll have to see more examples of her trying,and seeing what fails and what works.

But for now, we have to go by what's been seen.

So for now, she has the ability to one shot any hero wothout a specific defense and essentially cannot be blitzed?

Think of her as Rulk when he first appeared.

Although saying that, she's been around since N52 first appeared so she has quite a few appearances.

You suck mate. 👆

Originally posted by Damborgson
I've never heard a proper explanation for this and I'd like to hear some input on the matter. That good speed feat for Mera, is it now applicable to any and all threads she's in? Because that was the flash, there is no one faster. Wouldn't she then in theory, be too much for any hero? Couldn't she one shot Superman? After all, she outreacted the flash and essentially has an attack that can't be countered.

There's no intended snarkyness, it's the same issue that gets repeated all the time over the forums. Like, how in theory no one under flash should be able to tag Superman, yet when he does get tagged and its brought up, it kind of gets dismissed as good looking story telling. When then, is this not the same? Just cool story telling?

Yep, she's faster than Superman and Wonder Woman combined. Sad thing is, we had a huge debate on the Hulk vs Sentry fight, Hulk tagging a speed blitzing Sentry and the same people in this thread commenting on Mera tagging Flash were the same ones arguing Hulk slapping Sentry during mid blitz wasn't impressive because Sentry wasn't going at high speeds. WTF. The consistency, trolling and bias here is ridiculous.

Originally posted by carver9
Yep, she's faster than Superman and Wonder Woman combined. Sad thing is, we had a huge debate on the Hulk vs Sentry fight, Hulk tagging a speed blitzing Sentry and the same people in this thread commenting on Mera tagging Flash were the same ones arguing Hulk slapping Sentry during mid blitz wasn't impressive because Sentry wasn't going at high speeds. WTF. The consistency, trolling and bias here is ridiculous.

Proxima Midnight and Spectrum.

Originally posted by carver9
we have Monica trying to outpace it while moving at light speed

Have you got proof Monica was going at lightspeed?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Right.

So all your scans show is Storm consciously activating it before it can be used.

IOW, she doesn't have it on at all times. She has to activate it. NOBODY said she doesn't know how to use her powers. Please stop misunderstanding me.

Bioelectricity as in the electricity inside her own nervous system that she can manipulate. So in other words if she didn't have it, her nervous system wouldn't work and she would be dead. So its not something she has to turn on.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Does she activate it when against Iceman, for example? Does she defend against telepathy using her bioelectric aura? No? Then why does she suddenly think A-ha, I have never met this person before, but will break her (obvious!) telepathic link using my bio field!!

IOW, she has to activate it. BM does NOT have to activate it - his suit has it by default, as he knows of Mera and her hydrokinesis.

Wrong question b/c she has beaten Iceman with just lightning. Right question, has Iceman, Crystal, Hydroman, anyone with hydrokinesis ever been able to take water away from Storm's body? No? Then why does some suddenly think A-ha, Mera can do what others equally or more powerful could not.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And in a quick draw battle, between Storm thinking 'bio field, ACTIVATE!' and Mera thinking 'Water rip!', who do you think is faster?

Hint: there's a scan of Mera doing it to a blitzing Flash.

In a quick draw battle why would Storm just stop the electric impulses in her brain like so. Notice that Storm didn't need to aim and point and it was immediate.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/30174/4388661-17_zpsoyndygbb.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/30174/4388662-25_zps6osxxs95.jpg

The arguments against the"Flash blitz" scan have already been made. It would be easy to show Mera fighting others (a few already in this thread) w/out anything close to Flash level reaction time. Its pretty weak to take a obvious jobbing Flash and pretend that Mera's speed is close to his level.

Mera was also extremely tired when she fought them, it has to be pointed out.

So Flash was jobbing now..? Lol, oh lawd. facepalm

Flash got a complete sentence out and still wasn't close to Mera. He obviously wasn't moving anywhere close to the speed of sound.

😂

Lol.

Yeeeeah, I'm done with this thread. The shit is piling too high for me. 😘

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Does she defend against telepathy using her bioelectric aura? No?

I'm so glad you asked that and this deserves its own section.

YES she defends against telepathy all the time using her own bioelectricy.

1. Jean Grey, ever heard of her? Storm is wanting her to psychically taste some ice-cream she is eating. Jean response is that there's too much "static" in Storm's brain. "Its the electrical forces that you [Storm] control. They prevent any deeper probes." It also shows that this is a passive ability that's always working.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387675-8823302158-27162.jpg

2. Shadow King a powerful physic. Storm states, "the static in my mind has held the Shadow King at bay before." And we see the evidence of that.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387677-5280612138-27162.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387678-8526996028-Night.jpg
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3. Rachel Grey aka Marvel Girl aka too many to list. Storm creates a lightning field around her that scrambles Rachel's powers.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387683-2778117623-27162.jpg

4. Psylocke-even the previously mentioned Rachel can't stand up to her tk. One guess as to who can?

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387686-7368299026-27162.png

5. After a battle with Bogan, who was utilizing Rachel as his slave in an astral form, Storm allowed him to enter her mind before supercharging herself with lightning, destroying him.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387688-8002313799-27162.jpg
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6. Pro X. "When your power's active like this, the feedback becomes quite painful."

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/4387690-6285935075-27162.jpg

And there's more but given who these psychics are, this issued should be put to rest.

Yep.

All the scans show that she actively throws it up to counter TP. Thanks.

It's not a passive ability that is always on, like Black Manta's suit.