Lord Vyndktvx Vs New 52 Darkseid

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Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Phil
Maaaybe.

I'm curios how Morrison would explain it.

He's explained it pretty in depth actually. Morrison views the fifth dimension as pure imagination. ie. any time we, in the real world, imagine something(however big or small), we are actually accessing the fifth dimension in some way. And before you ask: yes, Morrison has flat-out stated his perception that 'imagination=the fifth dimension' stems from multiple LSD trips he had decades ago, lol.

He's also made his opinion on the matter clear over the years, on panel:
http://i.imgur.com/xZTNfFJ.jpg
"Imagination is the Fifth dimension."

And very recently(though not under Morrison, but certainly written in the same hue), Mxy had a page-long dialogue explaining his existence as an imagination-based thought-form:
http://i.imgur.com/eR9BixR.jpg
"I don't need a body. I've lived on, and will live on, in heads. The heads of the authors who write me. I have no vocal cords, and yet right now, you're hearing my voice. I'm living in your head right now [...] Ideas are agency. We are Gods. You are just puppets. As long as there's one of you, there'll be a hundred of us."

*There's quite a bit more, but no real need to post it here(and I'm sure you've seen the material anyway.)

In a nutshell: when you factor in Morrison's perception of the fifth dimension, there's no real way to list/place it on a 2D plane, as it is not really a distinct physical location -- it exists primarily in the minds/imaginations of the readers. That's why I believe it transcends his Map all together. /shrug

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On another note, Phil: have you ever read Morrison's "Supergods" novel? If you want some fantastic insight as to how that man perceives concepts like this, it's a must read... Really expands on his metatextual works. 👆

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Originally posted by Galan007
He's explained it pretty in depth actually. Morrison views the fifth dimension as pure imagination. ie. any time we, in the real world, imagine something(however big or small), we are actually accessing the fifth dimension in some way. And before you ask: yes, Morrison has flat-out stated his perception that 'imagination=the fifth dimension' stems from multiple LSD trips he had decades ago, lol.

He's also made his opinion on the matter clear over the years, on panel:
http://i.imgur.com/xZTNfFJ.jpg
"Imagination [b]is the Fifth dimension."

And very recently(though not under Morrison, but certainly written in the same hue), Mxy had a page-long dialogue explaining his existence as an imagination-based thought-form:
http://i.imgur.com/eR9BixR.jpg
"I don't need a body. I've lived on, and will live on, in heads. The heads of the authors who write me. I have no vocal cords, and yet right now, you're hearing my voice. I'm living in your head right now [...] Ideas are agency. We are Gods. You are just puppets. As long as there's one of you, there'll be a hundred of us."

*There's quite a bit more, but no real need to post it here(and I'm sure you've seen the material anyway.)

In a nutshell: when you factor in Morrison's perception of the fifth dimension, there's no real way to list/place it on a 2D plane, as it is not really a distinct physical location -- it exists primarily in the minds/imaginations of the readers. That's why I believe it transcends his Map all together. /shrug

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Oh, I know about this, but I still think he'd put it on the map - after all, he put concepts such as the blank page [Overvoid] and Ink [Multiverse] in story/map. Technically speaking, the 5th Dimension would probably be what give the Ink shape [imagination], but I'd like to see it in print, before I take the leap - even if it makes sense, given what he's wrote beforehand. Because, at the same time, Mxy is meeting and referencing real life writers/editors - so it's kind of contradictory for him to be shaping the ink. Unless he's supposed to be the concept inside that same writers' mind, that helps him give shape to the stories.etc.

Originally posted by Galan007
On another note, Phil: have you ever read Morrison's "Supergods" novel? If you want some fantastic insight as to how that man perceives concepts like this, it's a must read... Really expands on his metatextual works. 👆
I have it down---erm, bought obviously, but I haven't gotten around to reading it. I know that if I start, I won't stop, so I'll wait until I have more time.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Phil
Oh, I know about this, but I still think he'd put it on the map - after all, he put concepts such as the blank page [Overvoid] and Ink [Multiverse] in story/map. Technically speaking, the 5th Dimension would probably be what give the Ink shape [imagination], but I'd like to see it in print.
Oh yeah, I'd like to see him officially list it in a canon source as well -- but until then, all we have are logical speculations... Which are just as much fun for me. 😛

Originally posted by Phil
Because, at the same time, Mxy is meeting and referencing real life writers/editors - so it's kind of contradictory for him to be shaping the ink. Unless he's supposed to be the concept inside that same writers' mind, that helps him give shape to the stories.etc.
I think that's exactly what's happening, tbh.

Originally posted by Phil
I have it down---erm, bought obviously, but I haven't gotten around to reading it. I know that if I start, I won't stop, so I'll wait until I have more time.
Heh, sounds like we 'bought' it from the same place. g007_pirate

But yeah, I just reread it myself. It solidifies why he is my favorite comic book writer. Bar none.

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Originally posted by Galan007
I think that's exactly what's happening, tbh.
I do, too, but the implications of that are too big to go forward without him actually putting it there.

Originally posted by Galan007
Heh, sounds like we 'bought' it from the same place. g007_pirate

But yeah, I just reread it myself. It solidifies why he is my favorite comic book writer. Bar none.

He broke my enjoyment of comics.

I haven't been excited for anything as much as I was for Final Crisis/Superman Beyond/Batman run.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

I know what you mean.

Animal Man, DC One Million, Seven Soldiers, All-Star Superman, Final Crisis/Superman Beyond, Multiversity, Batman RIP/Return of Bruce Wayne/Batman Inc., etc. (and that's not even counting the brilliant titles he's released with Vertigo and Image.)

These are some of my favorite comics EVER...the books I compare damn near everything to...and they're all Morrison-works. As far as I'm concerned, the man's storytelling/delivery is unrivaled.

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Hes literally using the medium to symbolically help guide the spiritual evolution of the species.. Read up on the influence a on his work from Philip K Dick to Robert Anton Wilson and.. Well.. Its some next level shit.