David... Brings Death to Marvel!!!

Started by Galan0077 pages

Originally posted by deathslash
how long do they have to survive the goo then?
They have to survive the initial release of Goo, along with its after-effects.

Remember, the Goo infects the entire planet -- it mutates ALL organic(and even synthetic) life. So even after the Goo had 'settled', the heroes would still be dealing with the aftermath -- namely, billionS of mindless mutants and/or Xenomorphs. What's more, the bodily fluids of those mutated by the Goo can also cause secondary mutations to those exposed.

And as seen in Covenant: even plant life can store the Go, and release it as microscopic spores when contacted... The Goo-spores, in turn, seek-out nearby life to infect:

As seen from Galan's video, the planet was green and flourishing. The goo doesn't affect most types of plant life. This is why Man-Thing would most likely survive, he's just animated swamp moss through and through.

What's the strongest character could this goo affect?

Bro ****ing spoilers much

Bump.

People give this movie a lot of shit, but I loved it and think it brought a lot to the table that was lacking in Prometheus.

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I think this video describes a lot of why I like it so much. I know it still had flaws, but boy do I enjoy some of the Ridley Scott Alien feel that was brought into this; and David is best main character of all.

Is the sequel called Aliens Covenant, or is it called Prometheus 2. I loved the first move but have yet to see the second one.

Originally posted by Magnon
Wolverine's healing factor allows him to recover from an almost-complete xeno-induced metamorphosis within seconds. The only reason he suffered any ill effects at all, below, was because his mutant powers had been temporarily neutralized. He would be able to resist the black goo as well.

He's also healed from the f*cking lycanthropy, vampirism and resisted the symbiote possession.

Wolvie's HF is definitely haxx, but so is the Black Goo's ability to evolve and counter all biological 'obstacles' it encounters:

At the very least the Goo would bombard Wolverine relentlessly, and he'd be left in a state of perpetually trying to heal/recover, imo. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
Wolvie's HF is definitely haxx, but so is the Black Goo's ability to evolve and counter all biological 'obstacles' it encounters:

At the very least the Goo would bombard Wolverine relentlessly, and he'd be left in a state of perpetually trying to heal/recover, imo. /shrug

Either that or, the antibodies in his system finds ways to eject the mutagen. I never saw the sequel to Prometheus, but the pathogen in the first movie was slow moving. Wolverine may not even ever become sick.

Marvel Earth would probably be destroyed. I don't even mean that the entire population would eventually be wiped out, I mean the planet would probably be destroyed. Given the way xenomorphs are prone to take on traits of their host, it's almost definite that one would gain some radical mutant abilities and do something to wreck the planet itself.

Originally posted by Stoic
Either that or, the antibodies in his system finds ways to eject the mutagen.
As mentioned: one of the Pathogen's deadliest qualities is that it continuously evolves itself in response to 'resistance' from the host -- if the host attempts to counter it, the Pathogen evolves/counters in response, and so on. That's why David mused that it was "impossible to defend against."

Secondly, the Pathogen continues to replicate itself endlessly until all organic life(or even inorganic life, according to the comics) on that planet has been infected. So even if Wolvie's HF were able to overcome the Pathogen initially, it would continue attacking him indefinitely -- each time evolving to become more and more potent.

Originally posted by Stoic
I never saw the sequel to Prometheus, but the pathogen in the first movie was slow moving. Wolverine may not even ever become sick.
Depends on the amount of the Pathogen you're exposed to. When exposed to a small amount of the Pathogen(like a single droplet), for example, it may take the host minutes/hours to begin mutating. When exposed to a large amount of the Pathogen(which is the intent of this thread), however, extremely violent mutations begin occurring almost instantly:

*As mentioned earlier: the Pathogen quite literally attacks/destroys(and in some cases remakes) its host at the molecular level:

I haven't seen this movie, so I'm just going by what I read here.

I'd definitely throw Elixir out there. He's full blown Jesus these days, giving life/death as he pleases. He's already cured people of Mpox, a sickness that Beast explains attacks your DNA, morphing to best attack your specific genome(2nd two scans).
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Granted, he went psycho and tried to kill Monet, Sabretooth, and Magneto before reviving them.
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It was confirmed he manipulates biology at the genetic level early in his career. Beast later says he has complete control over his biology.
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He's given people tumors, which use a type of DNA.
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Additionally, he tortured the Dark Riders by reviving and kill them over and over again. He also discusses with Monet how he died in her arms earlier.
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I honestly think he'd just purge himself of the goo, from what I've seen. Then he could go around helping others, provided he remains sane.

I would have suggested Triage too, but it seems like he is manipulating a literal life force, rather than biology. Seems like they'd just harness his power after taking him over.

Powerful psychics might make it out ok. Teen Jean for example has reconstructed herself after physical annihilation. Of course, she is probably mostly psychic energy that just looks human at this point.
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Rachel Summers has altered her DNA mentally. Assuming she doesn't get a TK shield up in time, it's possible she could fight the process too.

Old Man Logan has healed from the MPox thing too, and 616 Wolvie has plenty of similar feats, some of which have been mentioned. I imagine strong enough healing factors would eventually deal with it.

Magic users are another consideration here, although I can't think of specific examples. Marvel Earth would definitely be devastated, but maybe they can salvage something if people escort Elixir around. Possibly employ a time manipulator if one survives. Assuming, as darthgoober pointed out, some possessed character doesn't blow up the planet anyway.

Reed would whip up a cure in 5 minutes tbh.

It evolves to counter measures by "normal" human science. Think of anti venom, it would eventually evolve to counter that. But that's under the assumption that this is administered doses to fight it, not Wolverine's "I can heal my entire body from a nuke" that constantly fights it off with no breaks. It sounds like a more deadly version of the common cold tbh.

Wolverine is a different beast. I'd be curious to see the closest example in universe to a James Loganlett

Anybody remember this hidden gem?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliens_Versus_Predator:_Extinction

Originally posted by One Big Mob
It evolves to counter measures by "normal" human science. Think of anti venom, it would eventually evolve to counter that. But that's under the assumption that this is administered doses to fight it, not Wolverine's "I can heal my entire body from a nuke" that constantly fights it off with no breaks. It sounds like a more deadly version of the common cold tbh.
That's not what the Pathogen is at all... Pretty sure the common cold doesn't destroy those it infects at the molecular level, and/or completely rewrite their genetic code..?

What David was saying is that if someone tries to counter the Pathogen's effects with something genetically engineered or natural, it[the Pathogen] will instantaneously counter that counter, and so on. It is ever-changing/evolving, in order to infect all life it comes in contact with. That is how the Engineers designed it.

Maybe Wolverine would be able to heal himself of the infection initially. But like I mentioned: the Pathogen will continue to replicate/spread itself endlessly and never go dormant, until ALL life on earth has been infected. So at the very least the Pathogen would be perpetually attacking Wolverine at the molecular level -- with each attack more evolved than the last. So even if Wolvie healed every time, it certainly wouldn't be a fun existence for him regardless. Imo. /shrug

Anyone remember when the Hulk overcame the High Evolutionary's armour which tried to devolve him into goo... Perhaps I'm remembering it wrong, it's probably almost 40 years gone by.

But WWH was devolved into Gray Hulk, by a pathogen which, you guessed it, messed with his DNA.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But WWH was devolved into Gray Hulk, by a pathogen which, you guessed it, messed with his DNA.
Comic Continuity... I don't remember that, but then I've not read every issue of WWH, He obviously overcame it though was that on Sakaar?