Originally posted by abhilegend
It's like you have taken a vow to be always wrong.Imperiex's ship is confirmed as big as Jupiter.
https://static4.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11127/111276547/5761996-probe_14.jpg
Imperiex dwarfs even that ship.
https://static4.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11127/111276547/5762004-huge.jpg
That little speck is Superman flying towards him.
So no, he wasn't on daxam. He wouldn't even fit on the whole world.
The scale of the epilogue image doesn't give the appearance of dwarfing planets, but I will defer to the dialogue and ask how does Imperiex dwarfing planets contradict him defeating Daxam? No one said that he is on Daxam. Don't we see them flying out into space headed toward the ship that he is in (or riding on top of)? 😆
If you conclude from the image that Imperiex dwarfs Jupiter, then apparently Superman, Doomsday and the other probes are each about Earth size.
If he can fight Superman and Doomsday, why can't he fight Daxamites?
Originally posted by TheHulkster
The scale of the epilogue image doesn't give the appearance of dwarfing planets, but I will defer to the dialogue and ask how does Imperiex dwarfing planets contradict him defeating Daxam? No one said that he is on Daxam. Don't we see them flying out into space headed toward the ship that he is in (or riding on top of)? 😆If you conclude from the image that Imperiex dwarfs Jupiter, then apparently Superman, Doomsday and the other probes are each about Earth size.
If he can fight Superman and Doomsday, why can't he fight Daxamites?
Honestly, this is laughable.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
What are you talking about? What figure? You're flailing now.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/21012/495263-1.jpg
There were only probes which were shown on different planets destroying it but somehow Imperiex himself went to Daxam when neither the timeline nor the story matches it.
Marvel zombies. SMH
There remain many unknowns. However, best evidence suggests all Probes are off approximately equal power levels--nothing suggests otherwise. And high and low showings aside, each Probe seems to be beyond elite top tier level. They are a bit brittle, relative to that power level, though. So lucky wins can happen.
Originally posted by abhilegend
This figure.https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/21012/495263-1.jpg
There were only probes which were shown on different planets destroying it but somehow Imperiex himself went to Daxam when neither the timeline nor the story matches it.
Marvel zombies. SMH
Look at the image. That probe attacks a hoard of Daxamites who have left Daxam and are flying toward Imperiex's ship to attack him. The probe barely makes a dent in their numbers as shown by the large number that have gone well past him. Another probe is shown with his back against the space ship.
There is no evidence that the one probe near the planets surface kills 100,000 Daxamites and that notion contradicts what we see. We never see what happens to the Daxamites that go past him. They could just as easily have been dealt with by Prime himself once they reach the ship. We know that Prime resides in the ship that you say he dwarfs.
Stop making things up D.C. Druid.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Look at the image. That probe attacks a hoard of Daxamites who have left Daxam and are flying toward Imperiex's ship to attack him. The probe barely makes a dent in their numbers as shown by the large number that have gone well past him. Another probe is shown with his back against the space ship.
That's the same probe on a different panel. The dialogue specifically says so.
There is no evidence that the one probe near the planets surface kills 100,000 Daxamites and that notion contradicts what we see. We never see what happens to the Daxamites that go past him. They could just as easily have been dealt with by Prime himself once they reach the ship.
That's just rubbish. We do see what happened to the daxamites. They were used as a power source after defeat.
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35470793/JSAowaw_14-15.jpg.html
Here is entire chronology of that scene. On every world only a probe was fighting. Imperiex prime wasn't involved until Superman turned his probe back.
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35470779/9751339.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35470780/4665183.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35470781/6122155.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35470782/8180728.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35470783/5057544.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35470784/5215841.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35470785/3520808.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35470786/670466.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35470787/65502.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35470788/4594319.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35470789/6783744.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35470790/5593085.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35470791/3055095.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35470792/1237010.jpg.html
We know that Prime resides in the ship that you say he dwarfs.Stop making things up D.C. Druid.
So you have nothing but nonsense at this point? Prime wasn't there. It was one of the probes' pod.
You are just in denial mode now.
Originally posted by JBL
So next DC superfriends will claim that Superman, DD, WW mother and Zod can each defeat one hundred thousand daxamites since they beat the probes?? A new low for superfriends on it's way soon.
Denial followed by sheer desperation? Funny how that works.
Originally posted by carver9
Wonder Woman mother AND Aquaman did beat a Probe and Black Lightning was stalemating one.
Aquaman had trident of poseidon.
Black Lightning was amped by B13 weapons.
Originally posted by JBL
Again, no probe beat one hundred thousand anybody.
Well, according to some biased Super lovers in here...
Originally posted by carver9
And Imperiex probes are being drafted even though they were shaking off damage from high heralds.
Some people here think they were easily trans-level characters.
It's because people have a flawed view of how comics work.
Superman really was at a staggeringly high power level at the peak of OWAW. The writers spent a long time exploring the dynamic nature of his power, and then they had him peak at an insane level.
That said, there was a clear rationale for why Superman cannot normally perform at that level. Furthermore, this view of Superman represents one group of writers and editors, at one time. Just because Superman hit Trans, even Skyfather level, in one scene does not mean all writers today feel he is capable of that, even under ideal conditions.
It's perfectly logical to give Superman credit for his power levels shown in OWAW and still not think he is typically capable of such power, even under the same conditions.
