Imperiex Probe vs. Thor/Beta Ray Bill

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's the same probe on a different panel. The dialogue specifically says so.

That's just rubbish. We do see what happened to the daxamites. They were used as a power source after defeat.

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35470793/JSAowaw_14-15.jpg.html

Here is entire chronology of that scene. On every world only a probe was fighting. Imperiex prime wasn't involved until Superman turned his probe back.

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/35470779/9751339.jpg.html
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So you have nothing but nonsense at this point? Prime wasn't there. It was one of the probes' pod.

You are just in denial mode now.

If that's the same probe, why do you keep saying that it is standing on Daxam? And if that is a pod, then we see a hoard of Daxamites that have gotten past the probe and the pod and headed into space. Thus, they are eventually defeated by something they encounter on the way. Probably whatever they are targeting.

Maybe we should just drop the Daxam issue as it doesn't really matter.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hippolyta was amped with gauntlet of ares which amps wearer tenfold. She was still not able to kill it until it ripped itself apart trying to free itself from the lasso of truth.

Aquaman had trident of poseidon.

Black Lightning was amped by B13 weapons.

Her being amped 10 times still wouldn't put her anywhere close to Superman, Hulk, hell, even Ikaris level. She was amped, yes, but not top tier amped. Doesn't matter how she beat them, we just know that she took out more than one.

Hell, she was going fist cuff with one and wraps it up and snatch it's head off...

https://m.imgur.com/dFmpdV1

I'm nowhere near Mike Tyson level.

But I reckon I could garrotte him with a magical lasso.

Boy the excuses. Lol

Originally posted by Pillow Biter
It's because people have a flawed view of how comics work.

Superman really was at a staggeringly high power level at the peak of OWAW. The writers spent a long time exploring the dynamic nature of his power, and then they had him peak at an insane level.

That said, there was a clear rationale for why Superman cannot normally perform at that level. Furthermore, this view of Superman represents one group of writers and editors, at one time. Just because Superman hit Trans, even Skyfather level, in one scene does not mean all writers today feel he is capable of that, even under ideal conditions.

It's perfectly logical to give Superman credit for his power levels shown in OWAW and still not think he is typically capable of such power, even under the same conditions.

Originally posted by JBL
False. That would place Zod,DD WW mother and aquaman at the same level as you claim for Superman. Totally false claim you made.

We don't know how Zod beat a probe. It could have taken him hours (like Superman did on his first encounter).

Aquaman used a hax piercing weapon and so did Hippolyta. Plus they only killed a single probe. Superman was going through many of them like fodder.

Hp DD has always been skyfather level in physicality. He nearly killed Darkseid in a matter of seconds.

Originally posted by h1a8
We don't know how Zod beat a probe. It could have taken him hours (like Superman did on his first encounter).

Aquaman used a hax piercing weapon and so did Hippolyta. Plus they only killed a single probe. Superman was going through many of them like fodder.

Hp DD has always been skyfather level in physicality. He nearly killed Darkseid in a matter of seconds.

He/Zod beat a gang of them by blitzing them and taking hours to do it? What does have have to do with anything. Iirc, I thought Superman and Doomsday were fighting the probes for days?

i think the probes win but its not easy at all.

Originally posted by carver9
He/Zod beat a gang of them by blitzing them and taking hours to do it? What does have have to do with anything. Iirc, I thought Superman and Doomsday were fighting the probes for days?

What are you talking about? Zod beat a probe (singular) off panel. We have no clue how he did it and how long it took. It took Superman a very long time in his first encounter with one. He couldn't even damage it in the slightest at first (using all of his might). His face was straining like he was taking a shit.

Later on, in his amped mind frame, he was one shotting them instantly.

Originally posted by carver9
Her being amped 10 times still wouldn't put her anywhere close to Superman, Hulk, hell, even Ikaris level. She was amped, yes, but not top tier amped. Doesn't matter how she beat them, we just know that she took out more than one.

Hell, she was going fist cuff with one and wraps it up and snatch it's head off...

https://m.imgur.com/dFmpdV1

She downed Orion with one punch. At standard levels.

At 10x power she was absolutely top tier.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
If that's the same probe, why do you keep saying that it is standing on Daxam? And if that is a pod, then we see a hoard of Daxamites that have gotten past the probe and the pod and headed into space. Thus, they are eventually defeated by something they encounter on the way. Probably whatever they are targeting.

Yeah, desperation. Nothing else.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm nowhere near Mike Tyson level.

But I reckon I could garrotte him with a magical lasso.

I reckon you couldn't take any amount of abuse from him, even how he is now, to get in any sort of position to pull that off.

Originally posted by carver9
Her being amped 10 times still wouldn't put her anywhere close to Superman, Hulk, hell, even Ikaris level. She was amped, yes, but not top tier amped. Doesn't matter how she beat them, we just know that she took out more than one.

What nonsense is this? A mere human (Cassie Sandsmark) survived attacks from Doomsday clone which was kicking Diana's ass with the gauntlets. Her mother drew blood from Hercules with the gauntlets.

Hippolyta has beaten Wonder Woman at normal power, beaten Captain Marvel Jr in arm wrestling and is quite close to Diana in strength by her own admission. At ten times strength? She would kick someone like Kurse's head in.

And even then she died from explosion of one probe. And the probes destroyed themselves.

Hell, she was going fist cuff with one and wraps it up and snatch it's head off...

https://m.imgur.com/dFmpdV1

The probe destroyed itself. You can't be this stupid.

Originally posted by JBL
False. That would place Zod,DD WW mother and aquaman at the same level as you claim for Superman. Totally false claim you made.

Imperiex-Probe destroys them. It was one Probe vs the Daxams. Prime was in his ship during most of the war, it seems to be one of his 'hollowers' in the scan. Imperiex-Prime sits in the middle of his ship, that is an analog to the brain, = him to God in what some people view.

Here is how powerful GOA makes the wearer. Diana oneshots a Doomsday clone who was stronger than her and Hercules combined and then started doubling in power with each step.

Originally posted by Galan007
Like most versions of Doomsday, this version was ultimately beaten by the finest PIS in the industry:

Oneshotted into dust.

Originally posted by kevdude
Imperiex-Probe destroys them. It was one Probe vs the Daxams. Prime was in his ship during most of the war, it seems to be one of his 'hollowers' in the scan. Imperiex-Prime sits in the middle of his ship, that is an analog to the brain, = him to God in what some people view.

The heavy implication is that no one was aware of Imperiex Prime's existence until he physically appeared much later in OWAW -- they initially thought the Probe(s) they'd encountered early on were Imperiex himself:
http://i.imgur.com/81uUg3x.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ULCQILM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KYd8gej.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CMk0qs0.jpg

Originally posted by h1a8
What are you talking about? Zod beat a probe (singular) off panel. We have no clue how he did it and how long it took. It took Superman a very long time in his first encounter with one. He couldn't even damage it in the slightest at first (using all of his might). His face was straining like he was taking a shit.

Later on, in his amped mind frame, he was one shotting them instantly.

Ok, you obviously do not know what you're talking about.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So your argument is that despite the dialog confirming there was only one being against Daxamites and Imperiex sending probes to countless worlds, he was somehow at Daxam when nothing ever was shown or implied?

Yeah, desperation. Nothing else.

The dialogue confirms that the single being is Imperiex Prime since he is referred to as the Devourer of Galaxies (no probe devours a galaxy) and the dialogue specifically stats that the "Devourer of Galaxies" in in the Daxamite's sector. Can you show where the probes are spread out across the universe? Imperiex has to be present to absorb the energies after a hollowing.