Superman punches the Trans Tier

Originally posted by Damborgson
Those are great but they're not like the minimum requirements for ko'ing those characters, they just happen to be what did it.

Doomsday was merely koed by a Guardian committing suicide and Guardians have some of the most beastly showings for skyfathers. Heck at that time the GL CPB was just a portion of their own powers.

A minor psychic imprint by Krona had Hal seeing everything in cosmos and he could fix everything as well.

And did Superman KO prime under normal healthy circumstances ? All I remember when when they were both weakened, which suffice to say, skews things a bit.

Superman never went all out against Prime though. He was always trying to redeem him.

The destroyer on the other hand, has easily taken Mjolnir's best and to my knowledge only has one showing of breaking as mentioned before.

Jarnjborn recently cut it. Thor's hammer shot is fine and dandy but its not comparable to an all out punch from Superman that kills Doomsday.

Yeah all survive, anything other is just pure fanboy bias

Originally posted by abhilegend
Doomsday was merely koed by a Guardian committing suicide and Guardians have some of the most beastly showings for skyfathers. Heck at that time the GL CPB was just a portion of their own powers.

A minor psychic imprint by Krona had Hal seeing everything in cosmos and he could fix everything as well.

Superman never went all out against Prime though. He was always trying to redeem him.

Jarnjborn recently cut it. Thor's hammer shot is fine and dandy but its not comparable to an all out punch from Superman that kills Doomsday.

Yeah, but he also had an extra layer of protection on him, so it becomes fuzzy. Not weak by any means, but that doesn't make it like baseline, this is what it takes to KO doomsday, you know what I'm saying?

So he's never KO'd him, okay.

Did it? I've looked at that scan a lot trying to notice a scratch lol. Didn't seem like it was damaged, just that Thor was saying he'd wear it down eventually or something. Maybe not, but all out Thor trying to save the Earth giving it all he's got has by comparison damaged Mangog, and fazed 8th day Juggernaut, but didn't put a scratch on the destroyer. It was plenty.

Just doesn't seem likely that he'd punch right through it, not enough evidence.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Yeah, but he also had an extra layer of protection on him, so it becomes fuzzy. Not weak by any means, but that doesn't make it like baseline, this is what it takes to KO doomsday, you know what I'm saying?

The blast destroyed GL ring.

Doomsday didn't have any protection from the blast.

Its the only time he was koed before Radion killed him so yes, that's his baseline.

So he's never KO'd him, okay.

Really?

Did it? I've looked at that scan a lot trying to notice a scratch lol. Didn't seem like it was damaged, just that Thor was saying he'd wear it down eventually or something. Maybe not, but all out Thor trying to save the Earth giving it all he's got has by comparison damaged Mangog, and fazed 8th day Juggernaut, but didn't put a scratch on the destroyer. It was plenty.

Both Mangog and Juggernaut don't compare to Doomsday. An amped (by city electrical grid) Iron man put Mangog to his knees by comparison. Thor didn't actually harm Juggernaut.

And Thor did damage Destroyer's arm.

Just doesn't seem likely that he'd punch right through it, not enough evidence.

Not really. Loki said Serpent would make scrap of Destroyer. By comparison even a burnt out Imperiex Probe tanked omega beams of Darkseid and combined blasts of Quintessence. Superman was punching through them like nothing.

Destroyer is tough but not that tough.

Superman's unique kind of dynamism means that he has rarely, if ever, punched someone with 100% of his power--under many writers, he literally does not know ho to or cannot do this voluntarily.

Similarly, different writers would ascribe different power levels to all-out Superman even if he could access his full strength. Wildly different.

So this is almost as hard to answer as the same question involving Hulk would be.

The probe that was turned into the Entropy Armour was also modded with Apokoliptian tech. It's not pure Imp tech

^^^which is why some posters are going:

Originally posted by Damborgson
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for being Superman and his **** limits way of being.

I mean, saying Supes can punch a hole in the Destroyer because we've never 'seen' him punch 'as hard as he can' is a lot less playsible than saying he cant, based on the Destroyer's documented showings.

Best answer is to admit the mystery around Supes' true top end. And then focus on any portrayals where he might have been able to do some real damage here. Frankly, there aren't many portrayals where he'd say crack the Destroyer. But there have probably been a couple, like when he wrecked Diana's bracers in an alyernate timeline under Loeb. Batman had just been killed and Loeb basically said that Superman would have punched through anything at that moment.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The probe that was turned into the Entropy Armour was also modded with Apokoliptian tech. It's not pure Imp tech

Originally posted by abhilegend
Diana's bracers. Inertron, promethium etc.
Compare this.

And.

http://i.imgur.com/jFeQsxH.jpg

And to this.

http://i.imgur.com/ax1vSYCm.jpg

How many of these do you think are more durable than Superboy Prime?

When did he dent Diana bracelet? Also, please post the promethium showing along with durability fts for the metal.

Why should I? It's not like you are going to change your mind.

Originally posted by Pillow Biter
Best answer is to admit the mystery around Supes' true top end. And then focus on any portrayals where he might have been able to do some real damage here. Frankly, there aren't many portrayals where he'd say crack the Destroyer. But there have probably been a couple, like when he wrecked Diana's bracers in an alyernate timeline under Loeb. Batman had just been killed and Loeb basically said that Superman would have punched through anything at that moment.

Superboy Prime is the only one that could survive. Superman is as strong as he needs to be to save the day; it is a part of his concept.

A punch that kills Doomsday is a punch that would also kill Thanos etc. Unless Thanos still has that no-dying curse from Death. In which case he would continue living as a detached head.

Originally posted by Magnon
A punch that kills Doomsday is a punch that would also kill Thanos etc.

Originally posted by Magnon
Superboy Prime is the only one that could survive. Superman is as strong as he needs to be to save the day; it is a part of his concept.

A punch that kills Doomsday is a punch that would also kill Thanos etc. Unless Thanos still has that no-dying curse from Death. In which case he would continue living as a detached head.

Thor, Hulk, Hyperion, they are as strong as they need to be. With that said, each of them take turns punching a hole clean through Doomsday. I enjoy THIS concept.

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Would love to see what a competent Carver is like.

Can't wait for Phildo to step up.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor, Hulk, Hyperion, they are as strong as they need to be. With that said, each of them take turns punching a hole clean through Doomsday. I enjoy THIS concept.

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Originally posted by riv6672
This is what MBs were like circa 2000, with page after page of
'character A wins...because he's character A!'
'No way.'
'Yes way!'
Which is why we have rules now.

Yep!!! It's amazing tbh. I wonder why all characters don't get this kind of love. Hal punching through Krono. Whatever the writer want these characters to do, they will do it. Spiderman is a prime example of this.

Originally posted by abhilegend
To control it. Otherwise it was pure Imperiex tech.

Does it have the ability to absorb, nullify and reflect energy?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Does it have the ability to absorb, nullify and reflect energy?

It didn't say I have power of Apokolips tech.