Originally posted by Damborgson
A crash can destroy a helmet, that still means the crash hit the helmet first.
The guardian's blast vaporized the ring before it ripped open space time and koed him.
No, that just means he was KO'd by it. Doesn't mean that's the minimum. I've never been knocked out in my life, but if a bus hit me, there's a good chance I'll be out or dead. That doesn't mean that's the minimum it takes to knock me out, as cool as that would be. It's just what happens to have done it.
That's just speculation. What we know that its the minimum that has ever koed him.
That wasn't intended to be snarky, it was just an affirmation lol.All it did was knock him over, and it could be argued he wasn't expecting that kind of blast from him.
http://imgur.com/1ED04M6
Seriously? He is stunned by that blast.
Shouldn't be held against him any more than this:https://trollmaggy.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/2417883-fnfmaximadoomsday3.jpg?w=760
Except Doomsday is up and punching Maxima on the very next page. But I'm glad you think DOS Doomsday is equal to Mangog.
I can't tell from the scene, just looks like some sparks came off it.https://static4.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/43640/5434181-destroyer+jrnb2.png
You are obviously not paying attention.
https://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/43640/5434182-destoyer+jrnb1.png
Regardless, Jarnbjorn is a hax weapon anyway. It's a celestial killer afterall.
Due to a specific enchantment. Not that its sharp enough, but it failed on mjolnir under the same writer.
The serpent had all the Marvel pantheons scared to face him, had Hell Lords making plans on how to deal with his arrival. But except for breaking Cap's shield he didn't seem to live up the hype all that well.
Cap's shield is more durable than Destroyer's armor so I don't see how that's a rebuttal.
Yeah, but that's not all that broke probes.
A single probe held off Mordru too who is absolutely a skyfather level being.
Originally posted by abhilegend
The guardian's blast vaporized the ring before it ripped open space time and koed him.That's just speculation. What we know that its the minimum that has ever koed him.
Seriously? He is stunned by that blast.
Except Doomsday is up and punching Maxima on the very next page. But I'm glad you think DOS Doomsday is equal to Mangog.
You are obviously not paying attention.
https://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/43640/5434182-destoyer+jrnb1.png
Due to a specific enchantment. Not that its sharp enough, but it failed on mjolnir under the same writer.
Cap's shield is more durable than Destroyer's armor so I don't see how that's a rebuttal.
A single probe held off Mordru too who is absolutely a skyfather level being.
But it was there right? The defenses got destroyed but they were still there to start.
That's not speculation, that's a logical conclusion. Hence the bus example. It's not meant to diminish, because there's no diminishing the feat, but if I'm interpreting what you're saying correctly you're trying to hype the punch up by saying it's > an exploding guardian or something and that's just not right by any standard. The explosion could very well be an overkill on Doomsday, not the bare minimum.
He was up and talking on the same page. /shrug and he was getting up on the next panel. Stunned would be more or less what Konvikt did to Superman.
Yet Doomsday was sent flying and put on his back. It doesn't mean anything, but neither does the Iron Man/Mangog showing.
Ah, didn't remember that scan, good feat for Jarnbjorn. It might be because of the enchantment that gives it such ease, but it's damaged Celestial armor without it as well.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120293/4337778-apocalypse+vs+thor+3.jpg
So it's got a hell of a bite when Thor's swinging hard enough.
Because a shield doesn't move or punch or blast. It's the difference between a slab of adamantium and Ultron for a lesser comparison. And the difference between the armor and the shield isn't so great it's night and day.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Jarnbjorn failed against Power Man, IIRC.It's hardly Celestial plus against non Celestials.
Pretty much. This common description seems accurate:
Forged by Dwarves, Jarnbjorn is naturally sharper than almost any Earthly weapon, and can cut virtually anything. In addition, Jarnbjorn has a charm placed on it that makes it indestructible, and it can be used to defend against any attack, even bursts of energy like Apocalypse's optic beam. Thanks to Thor's own enchantment, Jarnbjorn can pierce the armor of Celestials or created using Celestial technology.