Originally posted by BackFire
I am criticizing them, which I think is fair. They knowingly marched alongside a bunch of nazis and KKK members, it's fair to criticize them for that.
Originally posted by BackFire
I reject the comparison between Antifa and Nazis/KKK, they are not the same and not comparable.
In my opinion either everybody is allowed to drink from the same water fountain or their not...
Originally posted by darthgoober
The only difference between them and the right wing extremists is an actual body count.
This is a very big distinction.
It's like comparing serial killers to carjackers.
"These two groups are the same if you ignore the things they've actually done."
Your argument is ridiculous and hilarious. Get real.
Originally posted by BackFire
This is a very big distinction.It's like comparing serial killers to carjackers.
"These two groups are the same if you ignore the things they've actually done."
Your argument is ridiculous and hilarious. Get real.
Originally posted by darthgoober
My argument isn't about the groups themselves but rather the people who choose to stay when they show up. If choosing not to leave when KKK/neo nazis show up at an event you'd already planned automatically means that you're supporting their actions and ideology, then choosing not to leave when Antifa shows up at your event should automatically mean the same thing.
You're lying, literally, your last post was you foolishly comparing the two groups and trying to say they're more or less the same just so long as you discount the actions the groups take part in. Your post is there for all to see.
As for what you say here, sure. Sticking around and marching alongside either group means you are probably ok with them. For one side, that means you don't have too much of a problem with murder and genocide, for the other, it means you're ok with hitting people. One is much worse than the other, hence why comparing antifa and nazis is an idiots game.
Originally posted by dadudemon
How many people has Antifa killed?I could not find a single murder/homicide from Antifa during my google search.
Originally posted by darthgoober
None. I'm saying that those who stay would be supporting murder if it happens because as I pointed out, that would be new. But they WOULD be supporting the types of violence they've already becoming notorious for if we apply the same standard to non affiliated protesters on the left that BD wants to apply to non affiliated protesters on the right.
Well, Antifa has over 100 years to catch up to the KKK to start hitting those Sub 20th Century body counts.
So you may have a good point in 100 years?
Originally posted by BackFire
You're lying, literally, your last post was you foolishly comparing the two groups and trying to say they're more or less the same just so long as you discount the actions the groups take part in. Your post is there for all to see.As for what you say here, sure. Sticking around and marching alongside either group means you are probably ok with them. For one side, that means you don't have too much of a problem with murder and genocide, for the other, it means you're ok with hitting people. One is much worse than the other, hence why comparing antifa and nazis is an idiots game.
Good, I'm glad that you acknowledged that. It won't mean much in the grand scheme of things, but maybe your admission will give some perspective to at least one or two of those on this site who share your opinion about condemning those who organize a protest that the nazis show up to while being quick to point out that not all the left wing protesters should be blamed for any riots and assaults that Antifa carries out.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, Antifa has over 100 years to catch up to the KKK to start hitting those Sub 20th Century body counts.So you may have a good point in 100 years?
Not by me, I don't think anyone should give up a cause just because there are a bunch of assholes who show up in agreement with them. That's why I can be a fan of Friedrich Nietzsche even though Hitler liked the guy. But to those with that kind of mindset...
Originally posted by darthgoober
No I'm not lying. I simply described Antifa as they are and then specifically pointed out that they lack the body count that the KKK and neo nazis have. If you believe that the accurate description I gave leads one to believe that there's little difference between the two groups then maybe that's something you should really take some time to think about...
Jesus, do you have blackouts when you make posts or something?
You are lying, you made a comparison between the two groups and then lied and said your argument isn't about comparing them.
And I don't believe any well-reasoned person will read your description and be lead to believe that there's little difference between the two, however it does read as if you yourself believe there's little difference because you implied as much by handwaving the murders that nazis/kkk have engaged in to make your stupid comparison between them and a group that hasn't committed murder seem reasonable.
Originally posted by BackFire
Jesus, do you have blackouts when you make posts or something?You are lying, you made a comparison between the two groups and then lied and said your argument isn't about comparing them.
And I don't believe any well-reasoned person will read your description and be lead to believe that there's little difference between the two, however it does read as if you yourself believe there's little difference because you implied as much by handwaving the murders that nazis/kkk have engaged in to make your stupid comparison between them and a group that hasn't committed murder seem reasonable.
The problem is you saying "the only difference was a body count". That right there makes it seem like you don't think that's an enormous distinction. Like it's just some minor variation between groups or something. It's enough to make the entire comparison, which again, you made, absurd. If that wasn't your intention then so be it. But it sure seemed that way.
Originally posted by BackFire
The problem is you saying "the only difference was a body count". That right there makes it seem like you don't think that's an enormous distinction. Like it's just some minor variation between groups or something. It's enough to make the entire comparison, which again, you made, absurd. If that wasn't your intention then so be it. But it sure seemed that way.
Then yeah, I guess I can understand how that might read wrong to people. What I meant to convey is that those who protest with them have only that line to draw in what it could be said they support.