Originally posted by Silent Master
Remove all public funding from any college that costs more than 8,000 a year to attend. that includes govt grants/loans for students.
I offer an alternative for those who don't wanna go into the military: 4 years poop street cleaning duty in San Francisco. Or 4 years working for ICE.
Originally posted by Surtur
Dad who paid for daughter's education confronts Warren over student loan forgiveness: 'Can I have my money back?'Okay so in all seriousness, I've joked about this happening...people who have paid getting their money back. I actually don't think they should get the money back if the current debts are wiped clean(I mean that's spending even more friggin money), but I also do not think the debts should be wiped clean unless someone can prove they were mislead when applying for a loan.
As to why I don't think anyone who paid should get money back if we wipe away current debt: I feel it's contradictory to be against reparations, but in favor of that. And of course any progressive against this but in favor of reparations is a hypocrite.
That father had every right to be upset and that is how many of us Conservatives, in general, feel about this retarded socialist idea of making taxpayers pay off the student loans of a bunch of self-entitled brats who have literally zero financial responsibility.
Here is the FOX video of that confrontation. The audio is actually much clearer and it has sub-titles as well:
An Important Free Speech Victory Against the SPLC
Imagine being dumb enough to support or defend the SPLC? Good thing nobody on this forum ever stooped that low!
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
That father had every right to be upset and that is how many of us Conservatives, in general, feel about this retarded socialist idea of making taxpayers pay off the student loans of a bunch of self-entitled brats who have literally zero financial responsibility.
This I think this tells more of the story then what many like to acknowledge:
According to College Atlas, 70 percent of Americans will study at a 4-year college, but less than two-thirds of them will graduate with a degree.
It almost makes schools out to be predatory in their approach to getting students.
Most of the increase in cost of education through the years is increase in admin staff and pay. Sounds like they need to trim the fat and lower costs and apparently stop hiding all their money.
Originally posted by Surtur
I feel it's less fair for the tax dollars of those who paid off their debts to go to paying off the debts of others than it is not wiping away current debts.
You'd have a point if we didn't have this explosive inflation cost problem. Again, 1965, you could pay for all your tuition, room, and board with a minimum wage job.
You cannot do that today. So those that could pay off their college debts many years ago do not have the same debt burden that young people face today. They are not even close.
People who have paid off their student loans when they attended college even 20 years ago faced a geometrically smaller debt compared to today. That's how bad the inflation is. Medical care costs and college education costs are absurdly inflating. Go back further in time, the geometric formula still works: just 10 years prior, people 30 years ago faced far less college education costs than our parents from 20 years ago.
Crazy, right?
I like Silent Master's idea. I also like one that someone else (was is Snowdragon?) had: make all state schools tuition free. Both Silent Master's and Snowdragon's ideas combined actually address both sides of the problem.
FACT TIME!
If we ended only 2 of our 4 perpetual wars, we could pay for all of everyone's college education in the United States and still have tens of billions of dollars left over.
But if you're okay with continued welfare for the Military Industrial Complex, that's alright. Let's kill more brown people.
Originally posted by Surtur
And as for the costs of college rising, isn't this because the government got involved? Or am I wrong on that? What caused the increase?
Listen here you little shit: do you even google son?
Originally posted by snowdragon
Expand the job of the Army Corp of Engineers to build more infrastructure in the USA and let folks join up to pay for their education, boom winner.
Damn, son. This IS a good idea.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Remove all public funding from any college that costs more than 8,000 a year to attend. that includes govt grants/loans for students.
You just eliminated almost every single college with very few costing that little.
You didn't know it was that bad, did you?
Originally posted by dadudemon
You'd have a point if we didn't have this explosive inflation cost problem. Again, 1965, you could pay for all your tuition, room, and board with a minimum wage job.You cannot do that today. So those that could pay off their college debts many years ago do not have the same debt burden that young people face today. They are not even close.
People who have paid off their student loans when they attended college even 20 years ago faced a geometrically smaller debt compared to today. That's how bad the inflation is. Medical care costs and college education costs are absurdly inflating. Go back further in time, the geometric formula still works: just 10 years prior, people 30 years ago faced far less college education costs than our parents from 20 years ago.
Crazy, right?
I like Silent Master's idea. I also like one that someone else (was is Snowdragon?) had: make all state schools tuition free. Both Silent Master's and Snowdragon's ideas combined actually address both sides of the problem.
[b]FACT TIME!
If we ended only 2 of our 4 perpetual wars, we could pay for all of everyone's college education in the United States and still have tens of billions of dollars left over.
But if you're okay with continued welfare for the Military Industrial Complex, that's alright. Let's kill more brown people.
Listen here you little shit: do you even google son?
The fatal flaw of free market capitalism.
What happens when only 30% of a population can afford a service, while 70% can not, and the former is far more profitable then the latter?
What if that service is insulin production?
The student loan crisis is not sustainable. What is your solution? I threw some ideas out there. What do you think?
The only real way to fix this sort of problem is if universities have skin in the game. Now how we make that happen, I don't know but to wipe out student debt without reform to our university system is just giving them a pass.
We as a society need to stop holding certain institiuations as though they are above scrutiny such as religious organizations and universities, hold them accountable to the public dole just like everyone else. Get rid of their exempt status and make them tax up.
Well, between us, I think we have some great ideas. We just need to merge a couple of them and we have a true solution that would work.
If some bozos on a dying Star Wars movie forum can think through this, why can't our representatives?
Oh, that's right: they are busy having ego games, taking legal bribes, and not doing what the American People want.
NYPD Police Commissioner: Crime Has Skyrocketed Because Of Democrats’ Bail Reform
They really do ruin everything don't they?
This is gonna be like double the triggerdom here because not only is AOC getting slapped down, but it's Steven Crowder doing it. Some here are still sore he knows more about guns than they do so this will sting, thoughts and prayers:
REBUTTAL: AOC's Insane Anti-American Rant | Louder with Crowder
*huge smirk*
Public Schools Are Teaching The 1619 Project in Class, Despite Concerns From Historians
^This is akin to teaching religion in public schools and anyone okay with it would have to be okay with that as well. Likewise, anyone okay with this has no room to ever cry about any conservative denying something like climate change. Someone okay with this is never again to wax poetic about how facts matter.
So now progressives are mis-educating children on purpose.
CNN's Don Lemon laughs until he cries as pundits portray Trump supporters as stupid hicks
LOL so yeah, this it what it is. Though the lack of self awareness from Don Lemon, who once wondered if a missing Malaysian flight had been swallowed up by a black hole, is hilarious. This clip is all good, some will find it funny and of course it will energize a portion of trumps base and get them out voting. It's all good.
Of course that does change if it turns out they are capable of dishing it out, but not capable of taking it. Good thing that isn't the case.
Lol oh. Man who mocked millions cries about bullying.
So this is the new leftist strategy: relentlessly poke the bear, sit back and wait for it to attack, and whine like a b*tch when it does. Being superior to them has never been so easy 🙂
Originally posted by Surtur
CNN's Don Lemon laughs until he cries as pundits portray Trump supporters as stupid hicksLOL so yeah, this it what it is. Though the lack of self awareness from Don Lemon, who once wondered if a missing Malaysian flight had been swallowed up by a black hole, is hilarious. This clip is all good, some will find it funny and of course it will energize a portion of trumps base and get them out voting. It's all good.
Of course that does change if it turns out they are capable of dishing it out, but not capable of taking it. Good thing that isn't the case.
Lol oh. Man who mocked millions cries about bullying.
So this is the new leftist strategy: relentlessly poke the bear, sit back and wait for it to attack, and whine like a b*tch when it does. Being superior to them has never been so easy 🙂
I watched the recorded segment on twitter in your article.
I laughed, too. That was funny. Making fun of Trumptards is funny. I laughed. Why are so many snowflakes getting butthurt about this? Their "guy" is an extremely rude and insulting personality so why did their feelings get hurt with someone being rude?
Dumb. Stupid faux outrage.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I watched the recorded segment on twitter in your article.I laughed, too. That was funny. Making fun of Trumptards is funny. I laughed. Why are so many snowflakes getting butthurt about this? Their "guy" is an extremely rude and insulting personality so why did their feelings get hurt with someone being rude?
Dumb. Stupid faux outrage.
Oh yeah there is hypocrisy everywhere here. Trump mocks people, but it was also kinda dumb for CNN to energize his base. There is also hypocrisy in someone who mocks the intelligence of others and yet thinks black holes swallow planes. Also a woman on his show says a small black hole would suck in the entire universe...to no push back. Just for fun do you think Lemon would push back if a conservative on his show said climate change isn't real? Then there is the hypocrisy of one of the mockers crying about people clapping back at him and labeling others a bully.
Oh and I have no issue with the clip, but of course we both know the reactions would be different if fox news was mocking the accents of some black people, correct? And yet it's hypocrisy to think it's okay to mock one group(hicks) but not the other.