The US is being unfair to Russia on the pipeline hackers.
They said outright they don't even care if its Russian mafia or independent parties, and that Russia will pay. The US can't even control our own organized crime! Or what about Palestine and HAMAS, do we hold them to account for HAMAS actions?
Why the double standard to Russia, for their bad actors?
Originally posted by cdtm
The US is being unfair to Russia on the pipeline hackers.They said outright they don't even care if its Russian mafia or independent parties, and that Russia will pay. The US can't even control our own organized crime! Or what about Palestine and HAMAS, do we hold them to account for HAMAS actions?
Why the double standard to Russia, for their bad actors?
Putin is effectively the biggest mod boss in Russia, the "Capo di tutti i capi" (Boss of all bosses) if you will; he's worth high billions. The lower families/organizations do not make a large, potentially political, move without his blessing, especially against America. He'd have them killed for stepping out of line otherwise.
Seder Humiliates Crowder, Internet Laughs
YouTube provocateur Steven Crowder has been humiliated after fleeing a surprise debate with political commentator Sam Seder on the H3 Podcast with Ethan Klein.
Crowder is known for engaging in controversial, attention-grabbing stunts (during the Derek Chauvin trial, Crowder infamously reenacted the violent arrest of George Floyd), and has been widely accused of racism, homophobia, and transphobia.
Crowder is also widely known for being the face of the "change my mind" meme. Much like Ben Shapiro, Crowder enjoys debating college students, and has often been accused of avoiding experienced political commentators.
Crowder accepted an invitation to debate Seder at Politicon, back in 2018, and it was widely suspected that he did not attend to avoid a humiliating takedown.
It is not hard to see why, as Youtube debate culture is known for its focus on ritualistic humiliation, as opposed to a thoughtful exchange of ideas; for example, political commentator Tim Pool became a walking punchline after repeatedly referencing the plotlines of Marvel movies during a political debate with Seder. It turns out, comparing your ideological opponent to Thanos isn’t particularly effective outside of the playground.
Hence, Crowder's reluctance to debate Seder is somewhat understandable—nobody wants their poorly thought-out replies immortalized on the internet. But despite Crowder's hesitation, Seder managed to ambush Crowder, after Ethan Klein brought Seder onto the H3 Podcast without telling Crowder beforehand.
Crowder had happily agreed to debate Klein (who describes himself as politically uninformed), but panicked upon seeing Seder, "Oh, no! Sam Seder? What a ****ing nightmare!"
It did not take long for the debate to descend into a shouting match, as Crowder disappeared from the screen, replaced by a co-host, and four voices exchanged pleas, insults, and accusing one another of cowardice.
Despite Seder repeatedly attempting to start a debate, Crowder continuously shifted the subject, accusing Seder of not having enough YouTube subscribers to be worth his time.
As the minutes passed, Crowder grew increasingly frantic, throwing a range of insults at Seder to see which would stick. Before he finally fled the podcast, Crowder repeatedly insisted that Seder remove his glasses, for some reason.
It was a bizarre spectacle that provoked mass mockery on Twitter.
Looks like avoiding the inevitable has led to the worst possible outcome for Crowder—mass humiliation, without the accompanying debate.
Afterward, Crowder posted a video to Twitter, announcing he is taking a break from his show for his health.
Originally posted by dadudemonI politely disagree with this post and find it ridiculous.
I watched the whole thing. Usually I would never watch a video that long.Yes, Crowder was right when he called her out on the definition and exactly what he said. And he was correct to point out the actual facts of official statements, the content on their website, and the actions they have taken to justify his position that they are definitely and objectively domestic terrorists.
Originally posted by Adam_PoEwell I would never wish illness on anyone. Crowder is a despicable hate monger liked by bigoted nut jobs imho.
YouTube provocateur Steven Crowder has been humiliated after fleeing a surprise debate with political commentator Sam Seder on the H3 Podcast with Ethan Klein.Crowder is known for engaging in controversial, attention-grabbing stunts (during the Derek Chauvin trial, Crowder infamously reenacted the violent arrest of George Floyd), and has been widely accused of racism, homophobia, and transphobia.
Crowder is also widely known for being the face of the "change my mind" meme. Much like Ben Shapiro, Crowder enjoys debating college students, and has often been accused of avoiding experienced political commentators.
Crowder accepted an invitation to debate Seder at Politicon, back in 2018, and it was widely suspected that he did not attend to avoid a humiliating takedown.
It is not hard to see why, as Youtube debate culture is known for its focus on ritualistic humiliation, as opposed to a thoughtful exchange of ideas; for example, political commentator Tim Pool became a walking punchline after repeatedly referencing the plotlines of Marvel movies during a political debate with Seder. It turns out, comparing your ideological opponent to Thanos isn’t particularly effective outside of the playground.
Hence, Crowder's reluctance to debate Seder is somewhat understandable—nobody wants their poorly thought-out replies immortalized on the internet. But despite Crowder's hesitation, Seder managed to ambush Crowder, after Ethan Klein brought Seder onto the H3 Podcast without telling Crowder beforehand.
Crowder had happily agreed to debate Klein (who describes himself as politically uninformed), but panicked upon seeing Seder, "Oh, no! Sam Seder? What a ****ing nightmare!"
It did not take long for the debate to descend into a shouting match, as Crowder disappeared from the screen, replaced by a co-host, and four voices exchanged pleas, insults, and accusing one another of cowardice.
Despite Seder repeatedly attempting to start a debate, Crowder continuously shifted the subject, accusing Seder of not having enough YouTube subscribers to be worth his time.
As the minutes passed, Crowder grew increasingly frantic, throwing a range of insults at Seder to see which would stick. Before he finally fled the podcast, Crowder repeatedly insisted that Seder remove his glasses, for some reason.
It was a bizarre spectacle that provoked mass mockery on Twitter.
Looks like avoiding the inevitable has led to the worst possible outcome for Crowder—mass humiliation, without the accompanying debate.
Afterward, Crowder posted a video to Twitter, announcing he is taking a break from his show for his health.
YouTube provocateur Steven Crowder has been humiliated after fleeing a surprise debate with political commentator Sam Seder on the H3 Podcast with Ethan Klein. -snip
Looks like avoiding the inevitable has led to the worst possible outcome for Crowder—mass humiliation, without the accompanying debate.
Afterward, Crowder posted a video to Twitter, announcing he is taking a break from his show for his health. -snip
😂
What a clown, the man is a true coward and has no shame, proven time and again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuDzCGPCD8c&t=345s
Basically, Ethan Klein (some nobody who I have never heard of before today) weaseled out of debating Crowder by instead bringing on an even bigger nobody whom I have never heard of to take his place in the debate because he was too much of a coward to debate Crowder, himself.
Afterward, leftists cheered and pretended like it was Crowder who chickened out of debate lol.
Oh leftists & their pretend winning... smh. ❌
"Ethan Klein and Hila Klein are an American-Israeli husband and wife duo best known for their YouTube channel h3h3Productions. The majority of content on their main channel comprises reaction videos and sketch comedy in which they satirize internet culture" -snip
^It actually just proves that Crowder will only try and debate not serious people, because he's a joke himself.
eg He'll go to come campus, "debate" 15-20 college kids and then post the one he happened to win on his YT and his idiot followers eat it up like cheese and crackers.