Faora vs. Kurse

Started by Psychotron11 pages
Originally posted by Silent Master
Yet, it didn't hurt Lois.

It didn't affect her.

It affected Superman, who managed to resist and overpower it. That's what matters. Now, if you wanna argue that Lois has better durability than Kurse that's fine by me.

He resisted something that couldn't even hurt a normal human, not impressed.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He resisted something that couldn't even hurt a normal human, not impressed.

The same something that killed Kurse.

Originally posted by Psychotron
The same something that killed Kurse.

Kurse wasn't even in Man of Steel. you really need to watch the movies before commenting.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Kurse wasn't even in Man of Steel. you really need to watch the movies before commenting.

There was a big singularity in MoS and a little one in Thor 2. Kurse got killed by the little one. Mind you, that same little black hole didn't even affect Thor and Loki, who were standing mere feet away.

Kurse was also stabbed by Loki and even by a random Asgardian with a sword. His durability is trash.

IOW, the one in Thor 2 was far more powerful than MOS. I agree.

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, the one in Thor 2 was far more powerful than MOS. I agree.

How is a much smaller black hole more powerful than one that's literally hundreds of times bigger?

Nice job ignoring the part about Kurse getting btfo by swords, btw.

Originally posted by Psychotron
How is a much smaller black hole more powerful than one that's literally hundreds of times bigger?

Nice job ignoring the part about Kurse getting btfo by swords, btw.

The one in Man of Steel couldn't even injure a normal human.

Originally posted by Psychotron
How is a much smaller black hole more powerful than one that's literally hundreds of times bigger?

Nice job ignoring the part about Kurse getting btfo by swords, btw.

Do you even know how blackholes are formed? Blackholes are basically stars condensed into tiny forms. So you get all that gravitational pull concentrated into a small area. The more condemsed it is, the more concentrated your gravitational pull.

So just because one is smaller doesn't mean it's less powerful, especially at it center. The area of gravitational pull might be less simply because it has less surface area, but the core may or may not exert the same amount of gravitational pull.

One thing for certain though is that the center of a blackhole is way more destructive than its outer perimiter.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Do you even know how blackholes are formed? Blackholes are basically stars condensed into tiny forms. So you get all that gravitational pull concentrated into a small area. The more condemsed it is, the more concentrated your gravitational pull.

So just because one is smaller doesn't mean it's less powerful, especially at it center. The area of gravitational pull might be less simply because it has less surface area, but the core may or may not exert the same amount of gravitational pull.

One thing for certain though is that the center of a blackhole is way more destructive than its outer perimiter.

It's funny watching him try and claim that Lois is more durable than Kurse.

There was no black hole in MoS, that was a worm hole.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
There was no black hole in MoS, that was a worm hole.

I didn't feel like rewatching it to check any of his claims, so thanks for the info.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Do you even know how blackholes are formed? Blackholes are basically stars condensed into tiny forms. So you get all that gravitational pull concentrated into a small area. The more condemsed it is, the more concentrated your gravitational pull.

So just because one is smaller doesn't mean it's less powerful, especially at it center. The area of gravitational pull might be less simply because it has less surface area, but the core may or may not exert the same amount of gravitational pull.

One thing for certain though is that the center of a blackhole is way more destructive than its outer perimiter.

Thats not entirely true. A larger black hole does have a stronger pull. More visible mass (you cant exactly see a black hole, but you can see energy emitted right at the boundary of the event horizon) means larger event horizon (double the mass means double the event horizon) which means more condensed mass at the center which means stronger pull.

That said, the "black hole" in MOS was quoted in the movie as being a phantom (fictional) singularity that's "like" a black hole. It's similar which is why it had pull, but it is not a black hole. For that reason, it's hard to compare that singularity to the one that ended Kurse. They're not the same. The one in MOS is definitely powerful since Supes himself could barely resist it but I don't know how powerful in comparison to the one that killed Kurse.

If the one that killed curse was powerful itself, it would have sucked in more of the surroundings than just Kurse. It had a small event horizon, which means not much mass. Then again, it pulled him in pretty hard and quick so it seemed to exert a ton of force in a small horizon. It doesn't completely follow the rules so it's hard to judge. I'd chalk it up to an asgardian magic black hole.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Thats not entirely true. A larger black hole does have a stronger pull. More visible mass (you cant exactly see a black hole, but you can see energy emitted right at the boundary of the event horizon) means larger event horizon (double the mass means double the event horizon) which means more condensed mass at the center which means stronger pull.

That said, the "black hole" in MOS was quoted in the movie as being a phantom (fictional) singularity that's "like" a black hole. It's similar which is why it had pull, but it is not a black hole. For that reason, it's hard to compare that singularity to the one that ended Kurse. They're not the same. The one in MOS is definitely powerful since Supes himself could barely resist it

It's an ok flight feat, but it's not a very impressive durability feat as even Lois was uninjured.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's an ok flight feat, but it's not a very impressive durability feat as even Lois was uninjured.
It didn't effect Lois because she never came into contact with phantom energy. It's a fictional singularity made specifically to suck phantom energy back into the phantom zone. The space vessel Kal came in had a phantom drive which is how he came into contact with the energy. It's why the kryptonian ship in that same scene (it had no phantom drive and made the full flight) and Lois weren't sucked in but all the Kryptonians he freed from the phantom zone and almost he himself were.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Do you even know how blackholes are formed? Blackholes are basically stars condensed into tiny forms. So you get all that gravitational pull concentrated into a small area. The more condemsed it is, the more concentrated your gravitational pull.

So just because one is smaller doesn't mean it's less powerful, especially at it center. The area of gravitational pull might be less simply because it has less surface area, but the core may or may not exert the same amount of gravitational pull.

One thing for certain though is that the center of a blackhole is way more destructive than its outer perimiter.

No, theoreical micro black holes are so small they near instantly evaporate, and would cause no damage to the outside world. The smaller the black hole, the "weaker" it is.

It may be weaker, but the gravitational pull gets exponentially stronger the closer you are to the event horizon. And you can't get any closer than Kurse was.

And yes, MoS 'black hole' didn't affect Lois at all, it was even visible. PIS imo.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
There was no black hole in MoS, that was a worm hole.

Liar

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
It may be weaker, but the gravitational pull gets exponentially stronger the closer you are to the event horizon. And you can't get any closer than Kurse was.

And yes, MoS 'black hole' didn't affect Lois at all, it was even visible. PIS imo.

Yeah, Lois surviving it was PIS. 👆

I think bottom line is, Kurse being at the center of a black hole is sure to have experienced far stronger forces than Superman did being in the perimeter of a black hole (or whatever it is that was).