Originally posted by FrothByte
If I'm not mistaken, this fight is with standard equipment yes? So Loki gets his scepter and knives?
Besides the knives it is hard to say what his standard equipment is. For instance in the first Thor he also uses that weapon that he uses to kill the leader of the frost giants. In Avengers he has the scepter. In Thor 2 he has nothing. There isn't really a consistent weapon besides the knives.
Originally posted by Surtur
Besides the knives it is hard to say what his standard equipment is. For instance in the first Thor he also uses that weapon that he uses to kill the leader of the frost giants. In Avengers he has the scepter. In Thor 2 he has nothing. There isn't really a consistent weapon besides the knives.
True, but then in most MvF matches we have always assumed default equipment for Loki is scepter and knives, as this was what he had the most feats with.
In any case, I don't understand why people here keep talking like Loki is fighting pure fisticuffs.
Also, do we know if Barakapool's entire skeleton was laced with Adamantium or did he just have adamantium claws?
Originally posted by KingD19
It seemed to be just the blades in his arms. Stryker did say he was incomplete. And Logan chopped his head off so there's more evidence he didn't have the full skeleton.
Well in that case, Loki can cut off his head as well. Or if we're being honest, he should be able to tear off Barakapool's arms.
Originally posted by FrothByte
No, but I also don't think Loki was going all out. Neither of them ever used the full extent of their powers on each other nor did they go for kill shots.Thor won because he's stronger and the better fighter but he never won easily. He couldn't even knock out Loki. No one who could give Thor a challenge like that is weak.
Get real. A holding back Thor has stalemated an enraged Hulk, while Loki got destroyed by Hulk.
Barakpool is armed with adamantium blades, which can and will cut Loki. Add his speed, agility, and teleportation ability and this is will be a short fight.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Get real. A holding back Thor has stalemated an enraged Hulk, while Loki got destroyed by Hulk.Barakpool is armed with adamantium blades, which can and will cut Loki. Add his speed, agility, and teleportation ability and this is will be a short fight.
What nonsense. Loki never even fought Hulk. Hulk ragdolled Loki when Loki was busy talking to Hulk. Sure, it was Loki's fault for being stupid enough to try and talk to a raging Hulk, but a cheapshot is a cheapshot and even the best fighters can get KO'd with a cheapshot. Let's not pretend that Loki wouldn't have put up a way better fight had he actually been trying to.
Originally posted by FrothByte
What nonsense. Loki never even fought Hulk. Hulk ragdolled Loki when Loki was busy talking to Hulk. Sure, it was Loki's fault for being stupid enough to try and talk to a raging Hulk, but a cheapshot is a cheapshot and even the best fighters can get KO'd with a cheapshot. Let's not pretend that Loki wouldn't have put up a way better fight had he actually been trying to.
Cheapshot? What? They were in the middle of a battle.
Do you seriously believe Loki can put up any sort of resistance agaisnt Hulk? And tell me how is he going to deal with adamantium blades + super speed + teleport?
Originally posted by Psychotron
Cheapshot? What? They were in the middle of a battle.Do you seriously believe Loki can put up any sort of resistance agaisnt Hulk? And tell me how is he going to deal with adamantium blades + super speed + teleport?
Yes they were in the middle of a battle. And yes, Loki was stupid for trying to talk to Hulk. Still doesn't change the fact that Hulk never went up against a Loki who was actively fighting him. Doesn't change the fact that Hulk attacked Loki while Loki was halfway in the middle of a sentence.
And yes, it would have gone much differently had Loki been fully prepared to fight the Hulk. Hulk has no answer to Loki's illusions and Loki's weapons should be strong enough to hurt Hulk. Not saying Loki wins but he's more than capable of making Hulk work for it.
As far as Barakapool is concerned, he doesn't have superspeed that I recall. He has teleportation which will mess Loki up as much as Loki's illusions will mess him up. Baraka has healing and Loki is extremely durable, we're not even sure how effective those adamantium claws will be on Loki. We do know Loki was fast enough to catch an arrow without looking, is strong enough to trade blows with Thor which means he's strong enough to tear off a man's limbs and should have no issues cutting off Barakapool's head provided he catches him.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes they were in the middle of a battle. And yes, Loki was stupid for trying to talk to Hulk. Still doesn't change the fact that Hulk never went up against a Loki who was actively fighting him. Doesn't change the fact that Hulk attacked Loki while Loki was halfway in the middle of a sentence.And yes, it would have gone much differently had Loki been fully prepared to fight the Hulk. Hulk has no answer to Loki's illusions and Loki's weapons should be strong enough to hurt Hulk. Not saying Loki wins but he's more than capable of making Hulk work for it.
As far as Barakapool is concerned, he doesn't have superspeed that I recall. He has teleportation which will mess Loki up as much as Loki's illusions will mess him up. Baraka has healing and Loki is extremely durable, we're not even sure how effective those adamantium claws will be on Loki. We do know Loki was fast enough to catch an arrow without looking, is strong enough to trade blows with Thor which means he's strong enough to tear off a man's limbs and should have no issues cutting off Barakapool's head provided he catches him.
Loki's arrogance is just part of his character. It's no fault of Hulk's.
Really? What combat feats does Loki have. Fighting a holding back Thor doesn't count.
Wade has super speed. Remember his bullet-blocking and cutting feats from earlier in the movie? That's far better than catching an arrow. Wade can deal with illusions via eye beam spam. Adamantium would **** him up. That shit cuts through everything that isn't adamantium. Even if Loki catches him he can just teleport out of it.
You know, I made this thread without revisiting Baraka-pool is action...
Based on the following clip, I think Baraka-pool defeats Loki:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLa5koZFFvY
Edit: and as you can see when he teleports, he skeleton is clearly metal...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You know, I made this thread without revisiting Baraka-pool is action...Based on the following clip, I think Baraka-pool defeats Loki:
Based on a clip where he loses to two street level people. Are you trolling?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Based on a clip where he loses to two street level people. Are you trolling?
Nope...
Are you being ignorant?
I don't think Loki can defeat that thing in battle based on what I've seen from both combatants...
That thing was very fast with his ability to teleport, attack, and teleport again...
Combine that with Adamantium Swords and the fact that Loki hasn't demonstrated a healing factor anywhere near what those "street level people" possess and yeah...
I'm having a hard time seeing Loki beating that monster...