Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Definitely not low 7. 7 is suppose to be the best you can be w/o "hacks" or "cheats." Briefly contending with Grievous, who's at best a 6 at that stage, doesn't qualify her as a 6.
Why would TCW Grievous be a tier 6? He was besting Kenobi in Season 2- who's at the very least a tier 7 given even TPM Kenobi was a seven.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Grievous probably ascends to tier 7 with the Lost Missions and ROTS.Grievous never bested Kenobi in Season 2. They fought and Grievous fled.
He was beating him in the duel, though. He shattered Kenobi's staff and floored him with a kick, then proceeded to visibly drive Kenobi back. Yeah, Grievous fled, when Kenobi cheap-shotted him by throwing the body of a downed MagnaGuard at Grievous and holding his blade up to Grievous' neck.
No he wasn't? For starters, it was Kenobi vs Grievous and two Magnaguards. Kenobi dismantled them both while fighting Grievous. The fact Grievous shattered the staff is irrelevant given not only is it a weapon Kenobi's not familiar with, but he's not a Jar'Kai user anyway. Grievous kicking Kenobi with his back toward him isn't a remote indicator of skill - there's no way to translate that to Gillard's tier systems. It's just as legitimate as Kenobi hurling a droid at Grievous - not. We see what Grievous can do against Ventress, who I'd hesitate to put a tier 7 but I'll be generous and put her there... he was beaten. That's not to say peak Grievous can't beat her, because I believe he can, but not pre-TLM, at the very least.
That's my opinion, at the very least.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No he wasn't? For starters, it was Kenobi vs Grievous and two Magnaguards. Kenobi dismantled them both while fighting Grievous. The fact Grievous shattered the staff is irrelevant given not only is it a weapon Kenobi's not familiar with, but he's not a Jar'Kai user anyway. Grievous kicking Kenobi with his back toward him isn't a remote indicator of skill - there's no way to translate that to Gillard's tier systems. It's just as legitimate as Kenobi hurling a droid at Grievous - not. We see what Grievous can do against Ventress, who I'd hesitate to put a tier 7 but I'll be generous and put her there... he was beaten. That's not to say peak Grievous can't beat her, because I believe he can, but not pre-TLM, at the very least.That's my opinion, at the very least.
Kenobi beat one MagnaGuard before Grievous even attacked, IIRC, then was driven back but killed the other one while Grievous was no longer charging. Grievous kicked Kenobi, and then proceeeded to seriously press him. Kenobi was being given serious grief there, and then resorted to cheap-shot.
Ventress is most definitely a tier seven given her stalemate with TCW Anakin in Season three, and even AOTC Anakin is a tier seven.
Ventress beat Grievous because she was amped by the nexus of Dathomir.