Ahsoka Tano vs Qui-Gon Jinn

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Grievous isn't a better swordsman than Qui-Gon, lmfao - at least not as of that episode. Maybe when he got the new upgrades in the Lost Missions though.

He got upgrades to his cybernetics during the Clone Wars?

Jinn.

Qui-Gon handily wins with his experience edge

Originally posted by thesithmaster
Jinn, not a mismatch though.
And TCW Grievous bested S2 Kenobi. Even S4 Kenobi got rekt by an out of practice Maul who hadn't improved since TPM.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
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->Kenobi is tortured and ko'd twice
-> Maul gets taken out twice in one minute by Kenobi
->Kenobi got rekt
Makes sense
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Kenobi gets slapped twice, his face grabbed once, punched twice, and thrown across a room which did no harm to Ventress. Four months post AOTC Kenobi withstood a greater beating from Durge. Kenobi was beaten which didn't hinder him as we saw in Kenobi vs Durge where Kenobi kept fighting after withstanding a bigger beating.

A desperate Kenobi landed a Force Push on a Maul whose guard was down, then Kenobi lands a meager kick. Right after this, though, Kenobi is sent flying with a kick. Fight continues, Maul dominates Kenobi with two kicks and Kenobi admits defeat. Quickly. Yeah, Kenobi got rekt.

Jinn. It's a decent fight though.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
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->Kenobi is tortured and ko'd twice
-> Maul gets taken out twice in one minute by Kenobi
->Kenobi got rekt
Makes sense
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Still, Maul won that fight. But it wasn't because of superior ability.

Originally posted by ares834
Jinn. It's a decent fight though.

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Still, Maul won that fight. But it wasn't because of superior ability.

Originally posted by thesithmaster
though, Kenobi is sent flying with a kick. Fight continues, Maul dominates Kenobi with two kicks and Kenobi admits defeat. Quickly. Yeah, Kenobi got rekt.

Kenobi's kick was more significant and would have ended the fight had it not been for ventress needing saving

Of course Kenobi was the better fighter in Revenge. Maul hadn't duelled in 10+ years.

Still was impressive the way Maul turned that fight around.

Originally posted by ares834
Jinn. It's a decent fight though.

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Still, Maul won that fight. But it wasn't because of superior ability.

He won by kicking him around and making him force defeat. How is that not superior ability?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Kenobi took a second to get up from Maul's three kicks, Maul took several seconds to start getting up from Kenobi's kick.

Kenobi's kick was more significant and would have ended the fight had it not been for ventress needing saving

Maul was sent staggering by Kenobi's kick, and Kenobi would have tried to kill him if he wanted to. Maul, however, dominated Kenobi with his kicks, outmanuevering him and making Kenobi look pathetic by effortlessly sidestepping his strikes. Yeah, Maul clearly won.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Of course Kenobi was the better fighter in Revenge. Maul hadn't duelled in 10+ years.

Still was impressive the way Maul turned that fight around.

Kenobi wasn't the better fighter. He landed two meager hits while catching Maul off guard on one occasion and while desperate to save Asajj, but when that ended Maul outright wrecked him with kicks.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Of course Kenobi was the better fighter in Revenge. Maul hadn't duelled in 10+ years.

Still was impressive the way Maul turned that fight around.

Yes Maul turned things around, by using a technique that wouldn't work outside of the circumstances of their revenge fight.

When both were hindered though, Kenobi was winning

Originally posted by thesithmaster
Maul was sent staggering by Kenobi's kick, and Kenobi would have tried to kill him if he wanted to. Maul, however, dominated Kenobi with his kicks, outmanuevering him and making Kenobi look pathetic by effortlessly sidestepping his strikes. Yeah, Maul clearly won.

Stop willfully ignoring what doesn't suit you. Kenobi actually had maul beat when both were hindered, twice.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Did you not see him opt to save ventress rather than try to finish maul?

Stop willfully ignoring what doesn't suit you. Kenobi actually had maul beat when both were hindered, twice.

Yeah, he saved Ventress. So?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
And Kenobi was emotionally unbalanced and had been tortured and ko'd twice.

Yes Maul turned things around, by using a technique that wouldn't work outside of the circumstances of their revenge fight.

When both were hindered though, Kenobi was winning

You must have missed the part where I said "of course Kenobi was better" as of that episode.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
You must have missed the part where I said "of course Kenobi was better" as of that episode.

Originally posted by thesithmaster
Yeah, he saved Ventress. So?

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
SO he saved ventress instead of finishing maul
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But him saving Ventress doesn't mean he could have finished Maul. Yeah, Maul was a bit staggered, but that doesn't mean he was vulnerable to a killing blow.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
I didn't, but I felt it was apppropiate to point out that Kenobi was hindered as well

Yes he was obviously hindered otherwise Maul couldn't have put up a decent fight against him, let alone actually win.

But Maul still did well to start turning the fight around like that. And then actually winning by hindering Kenobi further by "unbalancing" him.