Originally posted by abhilegend
Why would that be necessary to defeat a lowly clone like Sentry?
My fault, I thought you were trying some lame attempt at a stance here. Sentry is a reality manipulator that allows himself to bring himself back from death and to bring others back from death. Your accusation that Clark can sing him or whatever out of the picture is BS.
The scan was for my entertainment and nothing more.
Originally posted by tkitna
My fault, I thought you were trying some lame attempt at a stance here. Sentry is a reality manipulator that allows himself to bring himself back from death and to bring others back from death. You accusation that Clark can sing him or whatever out of the picture is BS.The scan was for my entertainment and nothing more.
Why is it bullshit? Darkseid can bring characters from death and resurrect himself after being killed and he was erased from reality as well.
Scans of him coming back from erased from reality please.
Originally posted by tkitna
My fault, I thought you were trying some lame attempt at a stance here. Sentry is a reality manipulator that allows himself to bring himself back from death and to bring others back from death. Your accusation that Clark can sing him or whatever out of the picture is BS.The scan was for my entertainment and nothing more.
He will use Chewbacca defence and willful ignorance against your scans.
Well he already did for the Sentry Vs Molecule Man fight.
What is a character considered when he can restore the soul of a dead person?
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102593/3216594-01.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/102593/3216595-02.jpg
Cant hunt down the next scan but Lindy was alive. Thats way beyond the JL.
There is a logic gap somewhere between Sentrys regular showings against Heralds like Thor, not only Thor killing him but dismissing him with a blow, WWH and Hercules
and with his one showing against Owen.
And Owen is all over the place in his showings:
Also being contained by a watcher, compared in power to the surfer.
Originally posted by tkitna
What is a character considered when he can restore the soul of a dead person?https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102593/3216594-01.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/102593/3216595-02.jpgCant hunt down the next scan but Lindy was alive. Thats way beyond the JL.
Originally posted by zopzopok zop.
No, you left out a very important detail. Thor and the rest of the Avengers were AMPED by the Norn Stones. Prior to this, they were doing next to nothing against Void.
Originally posted by tkitna
What is a character considered when he can restore the soul of a dead person?https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102593/3216594-01.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/102593/3216595-02.jpgCant hunt down the next scan but Lindy was alive. Thats way beyond the JL.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/YJ-055-18.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/YJ-055-19.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/YJ-055-20.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/YJ-055-21.jpg
Try something else
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You wanna gobble my worm?
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
And Owen is all over the place in his showings:Also being contained by a watcher, compared in power to the surfer.
Originally posted by Horrificus
ok zop.
I'not crazy ab9ut some of the other interpretations being voiced. And, to b honest, issues of a character's inner motivations, feelings and thoughts, r usually pretty easy to shoot holes in. Unless explicitely spelled out in detailed character comments, narration, etc.
But, I do remember some of the norn stone situation.
If Thor was definitely amp'd, there really isnt any way around that.
Originally posted by zopzop
[B]Wow, really? You lead poor Carver around for months then dump him for RealityWarper? 🙁
That's because I am sexy.
He was tricked and had his guard down. Give me one sec to post the scan. I need to find it.
This Molecule Man couldn't affect organic molecules and was just relieved of his belief in his dependency in his "magic wand"...
There is nothing to compare to the monster with limitless powers that Sentry faced and beat.
He was amped, I even posted the scan. Here it is again :
Loki used the Norn Stones to heal and then amp them. Stated by Loki himself right there on panel.
A little help ? ^^
Originally posted by zopzop
Wow, really? You lead poor Carver around for months then dump him for RealityWarper? 🙁He was tricked and had his guard down. Give me one sec to post the scan. I need to find it.
He was amped, I even posted the scan. Here it is again :
Loki used the Norn Stones to heal and then amp them. Stated by Loki himself right there on panel.
Now post Wolverine almost killing him with a deflected claw strike.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Guess how Sentry defeated Owen? He was distracted and let his guard down.
The attack of the plane wasn't an issue for Owen.
He was just instantly overpowered by Sentry.
Now post Wolverine almost killing him with a deflected claw strike.
When Owen believed he couldn't affect organic molecules and his mind wasn't unlocked by Dr Doom;
That's a totally different context.
Well played Abhi. 😆
Originally posted by abhilegend
Guess how Sentry defeated Owen? He was distracted and let his guard down.Now post Wolverine almost killing him with a deflected claw strike.
Originally posted by zopzop
[B]You realize there's different versions of Molecule Man right?
Version 1 : 'needed' a wand to use his powers (couldn't affect organic molecules
Version 2: didn't need a wand and wtf pwned Thor and crew (couldn't affect organic molecules
Version 3 : SW II Owen prior to being awakened by Doom (the version Wolverine cut) still couldn't affect organic molecules
Version 4 : SW II Godlike Owen Awakened by Doom could affect all molecules
Version 5 : Post SW II Owen after he and Beyonder merged to form Kosmos, pathetically weak (worse than Version 1 because he only had a sliver of his power he hid when he and Beyonder merged) this version could barely stand up to Klaw
Version 6 : Owen Unleashed. This version was transmultiversal and beat the Beyonder essence he drew out of Kosmos
Version 7 : Dark Avengers MM. Weaker than Version 4, 6, and 8 but much more powerful than the other versions. He could control molecules regardless of their composition (organic or inorganic) and he seemed to have limited reality warping abilities. Void influenced Sentry stomped this guy.
Sentry got stomped three times by Owen and later suckerpunched Owen. Sentry wasn't even powerful enough to fix a damn city at that point which far weaker matter manipulators have done.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/4681123-0524802694-tQa5x.jpg
If he was really so powerful he could've fixed a city, don't you think?
Sentry manipulated Owen's human body. Not a difficult task by any means.
Originally posted by zopzop
You realize there's different versions of Molecule Man right?
Version 1 : 'needed' a wand to use his powers (couldn't affect organic molecules
Version 2: didn't need a wand and wtf pwned Thor and crew (couldn't affect organic molecules
Version 3 : SW II Owen prior to being awakened by Doom (the version Wolverine cut) still couldn't affect organic molecules
Version 4 : SW II Godlike Owen Awakened by Doom could affect all molecules
Version 5 : Post SW II Owen after he and Beyonder merged to form Kosmos, pathetically weak (worse than Version 1 because he only had a sliver of his power he hid when he and Beyonder merged) this version could barely stand up to Klaw
Version 6 : Owen Unleashed. This version was transmultiversal and beat the Beyonder essence he drew out of Kosmos
Version 7 : Dark Avengers MM. Weaker than Version 4, 6, and 8 but much more powerful than the other versions. He could control molecules regardless of their composition (organic or inorganic) and he seemed to have limited reality warping abilities. Void influenced Sentry stomped this guy.
Version 8 : Current Godlike Molecule Man. No comment needed here.
That's almost that.
Let me correct the mistake.
Version 7 : Owen after he was dumped by Vulcana. Depressive after trying to have her back. Saw Doc Samson, got finally throwed in jail with negative beliefs about his abilities like the impossibility to rip apart genetic material and stuff like that (just look at the Dark Reign Files, Quasimodo list the problem).
Version 8: Dark Avengers MM. Recovered the full confidence in his abilities and creativity in the use of his powers. Owen is back at full power. Void influenced Sentry stomped this guy and he is the current version of Molecule Man just more mentally stable because he didn't had to suffer the backlash of his alternative versions constantly being killed by Dr Doom.
You was almost right. Good summary by the way.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Could you post a scan where Owen's durability is anywhere tied with his ability to affect organic molecules? It was a self imposed block, he wasn't any less powerful.Sentry got stomped three times by Owen and later suckerpunched Owen. Sentry wasn't even powerful enough to fix a damn city at that point which far weaker matter manipulators have done.
Sentry manipulated Owen's human body. Not a difficult task by any means.
MM sucker attacked Sentry first and despite being killed Sentry reformed himself MULTIPLE times. Owen died. The end. And the version that Wolverine attacked was much weaker than the version Sentry faced. Look at Owen tank a massive blast from Sentry :
http://imgur.com/a/VX8Gc
Abhi and his nonsense...
Originally posted by abhilegend
Could you post a scan where Owen's durability is anywhere tied with his ability to affect organic molecules?
Bullshit.
The durability has nothing to do with that.
They are confronting the same power:
Molecule manipulation/reality warping.
It was a self imposed block, he wasn't any less powerful.
Owen had NO MENTAL BLOCK DURING DARK AVENGERS.
Sentry got stomped three times by Owen
When he didn't know that he could manipulate the molecules / warp the reality.
Nice try thought.
and later suckerpunched Owen.
There is no "suckerpunch" when two characters tries to manipulates each other molecules.
Owen was simply overpowered.
Sentry wasn't even powerful enough to fix a damn city at that point which far weaker matter manipulators have done.
My god the stupidity of that comment...
Nope.
Sentry wasn't EXPERIENCED ENOUGH to fix the city.
It was only the second time that he used that power.
If he was really so powerful he could've fixed a city, don't you think?
SKILLED ENOUGH ABHI.
SKILLED. 😆
Sentry manipulated Owen's human body. Not a difficult task by any means.
He manipulated Owen's molecules.
In both cases please show any characters capable to put Owen in that position in the Marvel Universe...
The Beyonder failed to do it twice.
The power is clearly on Sentry's side.
Booh Abhi your claims are ridiculous. 😆
Originally posted by zopzopMM sucker attacked Sentry first and despite being killed Sentry reformed himself MULTIPLE times. Owen died. The end. And the version that Wolverine attacked was much weaker than the version Sentry faced. Look at Owen tank a massive blast from Sentry :
http://imgur.com/a/VX8Gc [/B]
Sentry got defeated thrice by Owen in a straight fight. Last time he suckerpunched Owen and there is no sign of Owen dying.
All it shows is Owen needs shields to withstand a simple missile. Sentry disintegrated a human Owen who was distracted.
You still did not answer, if Sentry was so powerful why didn't he fix one city?
