Thor/Surfer/Sentry (voided out) vs JLA

Started by Warrior Madness21 pages

JLA, easily.

I am trying to understand something. Or, to see if I already do.
Please stick with me while i try to put the details together.

The issue is "Thor killing Sentry". Did Sentry "help" Thor do it?
Sentry wanted to die.
He was unable to destroy himself.
He was unable to weaken himself to a point where death could easily b obtained.
At that time, Sentry CHOSE Thor, as the only individual that had the power to destroy Sentry.
This was a decision that Sentry worked out and acted upon, obviously as a "last resort". Thor, was who he counted on, in order to b killed.
If Sentry had the ability to weaken himself, anybody, potentially, could have killed him. But, he could not.
The list of characters that have been able to actually kill Sentry, is very short. But, Sentry, himself, believed that Thor was the one that could make it happen.
And, he did. Thor killed Sentry. Sentry did not "help him". He merely, did not fight against it.
So, regardless of Sentry's abilities and capabilities to inflict harm, it is canon that Thor is able to kill Sentry.
What happens AFTER Sentry dies, is a different topic.
Whether or not Sentry can kill Thor, is undecided and possibly, improbable. Unless proven otherwise on-panel.

Am I correct in these details?

Originally posted by Horrificus
The list of characters that have been able to actually kill Sentry, is very short. But, Sentry, himself, believed that Thor was the one that could make it happen.

Am I correct in these details?


No, you left out a very important detail. Thor and the rest of the Avengers were AMPED by the Norn Stones. Prior to this, they were doing next to nothing against Void.

Originally posted by Horrificus
I am trying to understand something. Or, to see if I already do.
Please stick with me while i try to put the details together.

The issue is "Thor killing Sentry". Did Sentry "help" Thor do it?
Sentry wanted to die.
He was unable to destroy himself.
He was unable to weaken himself to a point where death could easily b obtained.
At that time, Sentry CHOSE Thor, as the only individual that had the power to destroy Sentry.
This was a decision that Sentry worked out and acted upon, obviously as a "last resort". Thor, was who he counted on, in order to b killed.
If Sentry had the ability to weaken himself, anybody, potentially, could have killed him. But, he could not.
The list of characters that have been able to actually kill Sentry, is very short. But, Sentry, himself, believed that Thor was the one that could make it happen.
And, he did. Thor killed Sentry. Sentry did not "help him". He merely, did not fight against it.
So, regardless of Sentry's abilities and capabilities to inflict harm, it is canon that Thor is able to kill Sentry.
What happens AFTER Sentry dies, is a different topic.
Whether or not Sentry can kill Thor, is undecided and possibly, improbable. Unless proven otherwise on-panel.

Am I correct in these details?


Yes you are.
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Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Yes you are.
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No.

Originally posted by Horrificus
I am trying to understand something. Or, to see if I already do.
Please stick with me while i try to put the details together.

The issue is "Thor killing Sentry". Did Sentry "help" Thor do it?
Sentry wanted to die.
He was unable to destroy himself.
He was unable to weaken himself to a point where death could easily b obtained.
At that time, Sentry CHOSE Thor, as the only individual that had the power to destroy Sentry.
This was a decision that Sentry worked out and acted upon, obviously as a "last resort". Thor, was who he counted on, in order to b killed.
If Sentry had the ability to weaken himself, anybody, potentially, could have killed him. But, he could not.
The list of characters that have been able to actually kill Sentry, is very short. But, Sentry, himself, believed that Thor was the one that could make it happen.
And, he did. Thor killed Sentry. Sentry did not "help him". He merely, did not fight against it.
So, regardless of Sentry's abilities and capabilities to inflict harm, it is canon that Thor is able to kill Sentry.
What happens AFTER Sentry dies, is a different topic.
Whether or not Sentry can kill Thor, is undecided and possibly, improbable. Unless proven otherwise on-panel.

Am I correct in these details?

The reason why he asked Thor to do it was because Sentry was feeling guilty of his deeds and couldn't redeem himself.

He killed Ares, he killed THOR's BROTHER LOKI and DESTROYED ASGARD.

Thor was the one whom deserved to "kill" Bob.

Bob lowered his durability and forced Thor to kill him.

Where did it say he was feeling guilty about destroying Asgard etc?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Where did it say he was feeling guilty about destroying Asgard etc?

Enzeru said it. Indeed he gave us all an long and detailed interpretation of how the reader HAS TO interprete the feats of Sentry.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Where did it say he was feeling guilty about destroying Asgard etc?

Omg...

Robert was feeling guilty for everything BAD he DID.

Isn't Asgard part of the thing and his most recent mistake at this moment ?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Where did it say he was feeling guilty about destroying Asgard etc?

Nowhere. Stanboys made it up

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Where did it say he was feeling guilty about destroying Asgard etc?

He said "DID I DO THIS ?"

They told him "YES"

And he said "Please kill me !"

So, nowhere.

Thanks, guys (and lady).

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So, nowhere.

Thanks, guys (and lady).

Every time I am reading your comments now I have a twisted version of Limp Bizkit playing in my head "Trolling trolling trolling"...

Damn, Spider-sense is hurling bias everytime I read the comments in a Sentry thread.

The wilful ignorance is akin religious fanaticism...

Originally posted by tkitna
Lol. Oh and what is an actual fan of the character supposed to do to satisfy your agenda, ignore his on panel feats? He is above the JLA, It is what it is.

Is that so? Care to fill me in about these feats?

How could he struggle with a team consisting of Thor and a random team of mid tiers and stunned with a hellicarrier slamming into him.

He should've killed them all with a wave of his hands, right?

Should I start listing Superman's high end feats like Sentry fanboys like you do and pretend others have no feats to match?

Its right there on panel. The way people want to downplay and twist the story is pretty crazy. Bob plain as day asks them to kill him and they wouldnt. He allowed the void to momentarily surface so that they would be forced to. Its pretty easy to understand when your not busy making up excuses as to how it was somehow different.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Every time I am reading your comments now I have a twisted version of Limp Bizkit playing in my head "Trolling trolling trolling"...

Damn, Spider-sense is hurling bias everytime I read the comments in a Sentry thread.

The wilful ignorance is akin religious fanaticism...

So that's Void who wanted to be killed? Black eyes, black speech bubbles?

But I thought it was Rob who was holding him back?

Originally posted by tkitna
Its right there on panel. The way people want to downplay and twist the story is pretty crazy. Bob plain as day asks them to kill him and they wouldnt. He allowed the void to momentarily surface so that they would be forced to. Its pretty easy to understand when your not busy making up excuses as to how it was somehow different.

Exactly.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So that's Void who wanted to be killed? Black eyes, black speech bubbles?

But I thought it was Rob who was holding him back?

Bob used Void to force Thor to kill him.

Either ways that proves that Bob / Void / Sentry doesn't die if he don't want it and that they cannot "kill" him if he doesn't allow them to.

End of story.

Void solo.

Originally posted by tkitna
Its right there on panel. The way people want to downplay and twist the story is pretty crazy. Bob plain as day asks them to kill him and they wouldnt. He allowed the void to momentarily surface so that they would be forced to. Its pretty easy to understand when your not busy making up excuses as to how it was somehow different.

Who said Sentry has any say in here? Superman erases him from existence with a counter vibration like he did to true Darkseid.

Try coming back from that.

But the art shows someone with black eyes and black speech bubbles,telling them to kill him.

That's Void.

So if both Bob and Void want the heroes to kill him..

Originally posted by abhilegend
Is that so? Care to fill me in about these feats?

How could he struggle with a team consisting of Thor and a random team of mid tiers and stunned with a hellicarrier slamming into him.

He should've killed them all with a wave of his hands, right?

Should I start listing Superman's high end feats like Sentry fanboys like you do and pretend others have no feats to match?

His feats have been listed many, many times but you refuse to accept them.

He was struggling with himself more than those characters. The real battle in the story was Bob against the Void.

That is certainly a viable option.

List what you want and that wont change the fact that Superman is a dog pecker gnat compared to a voided out Sentry.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who said Sentry has any say in here? Superman erases him from existence with a counter vibration like he did to true Darkseid.

Try coming back from that.

Hilarious.

I) Abhi's Expectations.

A) Superman used the Miracle Machine to do that.

B) Darkseid was specifically mentioned as being vulnerable to a counter-vibration which Sentry isn't.

II) "Reality"

A) Void disintegrate Superman like he did to Loki and Molecule Man

B) Void disintegrate the rest of the JLA without effort but one by one to see their desperation.

C) Abhi give up reading comics.

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