Comrade Bernie

Started by socool85203 pages

Isn't finding cancer ahead of time a good thing? lol

Originally posted by Robtard
Morons do fall for shit filled nonsense, it's like they're drawn to it by some primal instinct.

Great irony overload here.

Originally posted by Surtur
Great irony overload here.
Originally posted by Robtard
#triggered
Originally posted by Robtard

You and your pals have done the irony overload thing too, so if that is being triggered okie dokie.

Originally posted by socool8520
Isn't finding cancer ahead of time a good thing? lol

Not for the pharmaceutical companies that make billions treating cancer patients.

Originally posted by Surtur
You and your pals have done the irony overload thing too, so if that is being triggered okie dokie.
Originally posted by Robtard
#triggered

If you say it enough times it might actually come true.

Originally posted by Robtard
#triggered

I think I would like to know ahead of time regardless if I have to pay for treatment. lol

Originally posted by socool8520
Isn't finding cancer ahead of time a good thing? lol
The mortality rate is little different (in fact in some cases it appears to be worse) than countries that aren't so excessive in their diagnosis. So objectively speaking no, it appears to be a waste of money.

Not that that's the point, the point is survival rates don't accurately reflect the quality of the treatment.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/3/editorial-the-statistics-of-life/

Taking the IMR numbers at face value may be misleading.

https://mises.org/library/who%E2%80%99s-bias-against-free-market-healthcare

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-worst-study-ever/

If this is true, I'm not sure how much merit their study has.

Originally posted by socool8520
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/3/editorial-the-statistics-of-life/

Taking the IMR numbers at face value may be misleading.

"Maybe" being the key word here. It appears to offer little more than speculation.
https://mises.org/library/who%E2%80%99s-bias-against-free-market-healthcare

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-worst-study-ever/

If this is true, I'm not sure how much merit their study has.

The study I cited was from the Commonwealth Fund, which ranked based on quality of care, access, equity, and health:

They do consistently poorly in most categories.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
"Maybe" being the key word here. It appears to offer little more than speculation.
The study I cited was from the Commonwealth Fund, which ranked based on quality of care, access, equity, and health:

They do consistently poorly in most categories.

It did cite that some races have higher instances of SIDS, and the US is one of, if not the most diverse countries in the world so it could reasonably skew numbers. Also, what the US classifies as a life is different from other countries which also affects numbers. It also showed a graph that the WHO used to show life expectancy was also skewed. They did not factor out deaths related to fatal accidents and the like. The US is far from perfect when it comes to healthcare, but it does look like the report was biased towards universal healthcare systems. Just my take though.

Yes, and the article I posted explained that things like quality of care were highly subjective. Admittedly, things like equity and will not be looked upon favorably because if you can't pay, you won't get the best healthcare.

Originally posted by socool8520
It did cite that some races have higher instances of SIDS, and the US is one of, if not the most diverse countries in the world so it could reasonably skew numbers. Also, what the US classifies as a life is different from other countries which also affects numbers. It also showed a graph that the WHO used to show life expectancy was also skewed. They did not factor out deaths related to fatal accidents and the like. The US is far from perfect when it comes to healthcare, but it does look like the report was biased towards universal healthcare systems. Just my take though.

Yes, and the article I posted explained that things like quality of care were highly subjective. Admittedly, things like equity and will not be looked upon favorably because if you can't pay, you won't get the best healthcare. The timeliness of care is confusing to me since the link I provided showed much longer wait times in other countries for surgeries than the US.

I live in a country with socialized medicine and it's not great. It's really not great at all.

^ Where do you live?

Originally posted by socool8520
^ Where do you live?
Lithuania.

Is their healthcare that bad?

Originally posted by socool8520
Is their healthcare that bad?

Depends on your definition of 'bad', but it certainly leaves a lot to be desired, especially for a country that's part of the EU. The healthcare quality outside of the largest 3 cities is a sad joke and even there it's mostly mediocre.

I thought that was what socialist healthcare was supposed to fix.