Originally posted by JBL
There is no such character called OWAW superman in any comic. A non-holding back superman is no where near a warrior madness Thor or WWH in strength. Superman does NOT gain any where near 10 times his strength, he cannot even double his strength without a sunamp. I could say there is a OWAW DD, ZOD, Aquaman and WW mother if you want to go that route. Show me in any comic from any era or any superman that has doubled his strength without the aid of the sun. Plain English, something like... He stopped holding back or dropped mental blocks and gained 1,2,3 or any times strength increase. Any superman you want to use. Pre-crisis, all-star, Etc. Any superman.
How much power did Superman's attacks increase, from hitting a probe hundreds to thousands of times to,
later on, one shotting the probes?
Superman has feats above 50 Earth weights. Besides Prime and WBH, he has the best strength feats in all of comics.
Superman, normally, is already significantly stronger than Thor. Superman's feats are astronomically greater than Thor's. At best Superman is at least a magnitude stronger.
Thor's durability does not increase in WM, just his strength.
Hulk is the weakest here. Superman has always been stronger than ALL versions of Hulk, except WBH. WM Thor is stronger than WWH.
Anyway, if Superman can one shot a trans being then he can one shot WM Thor (who has normal Thor durability) and WWH. The HV alone would go through both like a hot knife through butter. Superman would drill huge human size holes in their chest with his feet.
thor was starting to go crazy against hulk and became pretty invulnerable. his showing against HIM was not exactly awe-inspiring. regardless, he doesn't get faster. hulk is a non-factor if bfr is on. if not, he's still well behind both these guys. he's need to go next step to compete with thor. thor could win some here i think, but it is really hard to argue against the speed advantage--especially given how much stronger that superman appeared to be. /shrug
Originally posted by FlyattractorNot really. Imagine 30+ years of subconsciously holding back your power out of fear of killing or greatly injuring. Even a handshake can crush someone's hand, even a meta being's hand.
[b]The concept of Supes having "Mental Blocks" is frankly STUPID . [/B]
Originally posted by h1a8
Not really. Imagine 30+ years of subconsciously holding back your power out of fear of killing or greatly injuring. Even a handshake can crush someone's hand, even a meta being's hand.
It makes total sense. Otherwise Superman would have killed someone or permanently injured someone within the 30+ years of his life.
Or Thor would have permanently injured someone within 30 yrs.
Or Hulk
Spiderman
Wonder Woman
The mist goes on and on. All of these beings hold back their power. Some can't even help it due to other circumstances.
Originally posted by carver9
Or Thor would have permanently injured someone within 30 yrs.
Or Hulk
Spiderman
Wonder WomanThe mist goes on and on. All of these beings hold back their power. Some can't even help it due to other circumstances.
Superman does is subconsciously. Furthermore, that idea has been developed overtime...it's not something one writer did and others barely mentioned.
Stop side stepping the facts
Originally posted by JBL
Yes he is as in CM, BA and others. Go read the article on who is stronger than superman. No mention whatever about an all out superman being any different than him sleeping.
Lmaoooo he outmuscled beings superior to them 2-5 at a time by WoNK. You know nothing about this character.